Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[frck]

Dude your chatgpt generated messages are tiring. Youre in a high risk seizure zone and you skimped on the insurance to save a few bucks, eat it and move on, you're not gonna bully the source into reshipping it.

Holy shit you weren't kidding. This shouldn't be tolerated. A basic prerequisite to engaging in discourse is uh, engaging in discourse. If you can't be bothered to type out your thoughts you don't have any place in a forum.

 

[swiftque]

Sadly, it’s not what it used to be. Plus, most here have no access to other quality sources that their judgement is easily clouded by cheaper prices.

Sources do not get run off or chastised like they used to because buyers are such pushovers nowadays. Most are so inept at finding other sources that they will take that dick up their assess and even kiss these drug dealers assess just because they think its the cheapest they can find.

Sad really.

What other sources? The ones on this forum and multiple other forums we all have access to?

The trt clinics on the web, one that I did use before?

The local wellness clinic that also has offerings that I consulted with.

The other vendor/vendors that I have used online?

I think we all have similar access as you my friend, except whatever local sources that may be peddling out of your gym.

I chose to use QSC and it may not be the only place I shop. But when I do use QSC, I don’t expect to some Amazon level of turn around. I do expect the product to be tested. If I want something in a few days, I know where to go for that.

There’s domestic vendors on this forum with people waiting 2 weeks for their order and it’s nothing but praise. I’m sure Tracy gets multiples of this vendor’s order volume to process. There’s only so much 1 person can handle.

And Tracy can be dick and his communication sucks. And I think people are ordering from him with the wrong expectations. He’s your dealer not your friend.

We’re pushovers , inept, and I take dick in my ass for shopping here? Cmon man…. Be nice, some of us (me) are fragile.

 

[frck]

Sadly, it’s not what it used to be. Plus, most here have no access to other quality sources that their judgement is easily clouded by cheaper prices.

Sources do not get run off or chastised like they used to because buyers are such pushovers nowadays. Most are so inept at finding other sources that they will take that dick up their assess and even kiss these drug dealers assess just because they think its the cheapest they can find.

Sad really.

I frankly don't see the problem in this case. QSC is in the right: the guy opted out of insurance so the order is his responsibility. The rules are clear and none of the relevant facts are in dispute. I'd rather have this idiot pay for his own mistake than have his stupidity subsidized by the rest of us. It has nothing to do with favoring the source over the buyer. Complaints should be considered on their merits.

 

[AlexDavis43]

While I acknowledge that the items in question may be subject to legal restrictions, it's crucial to remember that they were purchased as part of a transaction. As a paying customer, I entered into a business agreement with QSC, expecting to receive a product in exchange for my payment.

The issue here isn't just about the nature of the items being purchased; it's about fundamental principles of business ethics and customer service. Regardless of the legality of the products, QSC accepted payment for them and failed to deliver as promised. This isn't simply a matter of customs rejection; it's a breach of trust and a failure to fulfill contractual obligations.

Given these circumstances, I find it deeply troubling that Tracy has been unresponsive and dismissive when approached for clarification on the situation. As a representative of QSC, Tracy has a responsibility to address customer inquiries promptly and professionally, regardless of the nature of the products involved.

While I understand the complexities of international orders and customs regulations, I cannot overlook the fact that QSC has taken money for a product that wasn't delivered. As a paying customer, I expect transparency, accountability, and respect from the company I choose to do business with.

It was for illegal shit, right? What more of a reason for it being seized are you looking for?

I understand this sucks. -$3k would definitely make a dent in my wallet.

Lesson learned.

 

[DECLAN]

I frankly don't see the problem in this case. QSC is in the right: the guy opted out of insurance so the order is his responsibility. The rules are clear and none of the relevant facts are in dispute. I'd rather have this idiot pay for his own mistake than have his stupidity subsidized by the rest of us. It has nothing to do with favoring the source over the buyer. Complaints should be considered on their merits.

I am not referring to that case. It is more of the general issues people are complaining about such as the basics, like communication, testing problems, stopper/vial quality and floaters.

However, if you have been here long enough, you should already be aware on what their stance on these issues as well as how they dealt with it in the past.

I’m only suggesting like always to use your financial sway to make a point. But as long as people tolerate their inadequacies there will never be changes for the good.

At this point, I am wondering why people still bother to complain when they order anyway.

 

[AlexDavis43]

User testing is far more reliable than vendor testing. While both are important, vendors can cherry pick the sample they want tested.

Some concerning issues with crowd testing have also been noted (some dude sending in wrong vials, or their own vial that they wanted tested instead of what the group decided?).

At some point, you just need to send your own shit for testing.

 

[RaddishPork]

I am not referring to that case. It is more of the general issues people are complaining about such as the basics, like communication, testing problems, stopper/vial quality and floaters.

However, if you have been here long enough, you should already be aware on what their stance on these issues as well as how they dealt with it in the past.

I’m only suggesting like always to use your financial sway to make a point. But as long as people tolerate their inadequacies there will never be changes for the good.

At this point, I am wondering why people still bother to complain when they order anyway.

Everything you’ve said is fair. Agree 100%.

I think the disconnect here is that a lot of us simply have not run into those issues. I’ve used probably 8 of his products and they were all just fine. There’s a huge variance in how everyone does things so it’s hard to know what’s legit or not. I’ve seen half the complainers get exposed as lying, leaving out context, or being at fault on their own. The real problems are getting buried by dumb stuff.

• Floaters are unacceptable imo.
• The stoppers are cheap but the coring can also be because of how many guys refuse to use smaller needles. After 10-20 pokes with a 23g, coring is to be expected even from the highest quality equipment.
• Communication is bad but they claim to have hired multiple helpers starting next week. Can’t do anything but wait and see. Doesn’t help when he’s getting blown up by chatgpt complaints.
• Manners are poor but us Americans have also been brainwashed into thinking “customer is always right.” Many other cultures and countries will gladly exercise their right to tell a consumer to fuck off if they don’t like the product. That’s not just a QSC thing.

But the last thing you said is the most important. Anybody that has followed this thread for more than a few weeks should know all this by now. We get what we see, and we see what we get.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Here's a timeline of events for people who ordered recently / need to order.

02-12 - Messaged on Whats app for price list
02-13 - Price list sent and instructions for how to order
02-13 - Placed order
02-15 - Tracy sent bitcoin payment information
02-15 - Sent Transaction Hash ID
02-17 - Got left on read.
02-20 - Asked for update on tracking information
02-23 - Tracking information sent as well as how to distinguish what is what in the order.
02-23 - Order was split. International/domestic. Domestic order arrived. International order tracking number shows it's in transit.

I should note according to the tracking numbers both packages got sent on 02-18.

The Tren E that arrived looks good. Haven't pinned it yet, but I'm sure its great.

Please consider deleting this for OPSEC reasons. Way too many details.

 

[Qingdao Sigma Chemicals]

Everything you’ve said is fair. Agree 100%.

I think the disconnect here is that a lot of us simply have not run into those issues. I’ve used probably 8 of his products and they were all just fine. There’s a huge variance in how everyone does things so it’s hard to know what’s legit or not. I’ve seen half the complainers get exposed as lying, leaving out context, or being at fault on their own. The real problems are getting buried by dumb stuff.

• Floaters are unacceptable imo.
• The stoppers are cheap but the coring can also be because of how many guys refuse to use smaller needles. After 10-20 pokes with a 23g, coring is to be expected even from the highest quality equipment.
• Communication is bad but they claim to have hired multiple helpers starting next week. Can’t do anything but wait and see. Doesn’t help when he’s getting blown up by chatgpt complaints.
• Manners are poor but us Americans have also been brainwashed into thinking “customer is always right.” Many other cultures and countries will gladly exercise their right to tell a consumer to fuck off if they don’t like the product. That’s not just a QSC thing.

But the last thing you said is the most important. Anybody that has followed this thread for more than a few weeks should know all this by now. We get what we see, and we see what we get.

Regarding the floaters issues, we just purchased another filter pump.
We believe that the new one will highly reduce that issue on next batches.

I take all complaints into consideration, some can be solved at higher speed, some need more time, and some cannot be solved temporary, so we do our best to improve as much as we can.

 

[Middus]

Sadly, it’s not what it used to be. Plus, most here have no access to other quality sources that their judgement is easily clouded by cheaper prices.

Sources do not get run off or chastised like they used to because buyers are such pushovers nowadays. Most are so inept at finding other sources that they will take that dick up their assess and even kiss these drug dealers assess just because they think its the cheapest they can find.

Sad really.

As someone originally from the 3rd world, I'm used to brash salespeople, even when selling legit goods. I'm also used to British and US customs, so no way making a heavy purchase without a 'safety net'.
Anyway, regarding the 'teachem a lesson' action. what I suspect will happen is that an effective boycott of QSC will simply lead to the alternative 'dealers' (one of whom will include a QSC front ) raising their prices. I don't believe quality will get better either. This is an alternative market, in a country where even the legit market needs harsh monitoring to maintain compliance. Even big pharma in ithe US is sometimes sus. They just pay well enough to keep potential whistleblowers happy. It's not hard to see a Human-Fooling-Chem whose products test at 99% and overdosed for 8-9 months, offer a massive sale, and after orders in excess of 300k are placed, just vanish, leaving CC companies and alipay to foot reimbursement fees.

 

[ebkallday]

I can almost guarantee it's your dumbass self that's caused the delay. Like you sending repeated messages and wondering why you keep getting bumped down 700 messages. Somehow, some way...Seemingly thousands of transactions a week are going smoothly because they follow the ordering process. But yours is delayed because you can't read and you panic like a 17yo boy the minute he doesn't message you back.

Here we have a source dick rider. How's that Cream of SomeYoungGuy taste? I heard you like it with soy sauce. Fucking PEDO!

 

[Big_bowl0tren]

Here we have a source dick rider. How's that Cream of SomeYoungGuy taste? I heard you like it with soy sauce. Fucking PEDO!

You proved me wrong I mistakenly assumed he was a cheerleader flinging around his QSC Pom poms

 

[trtbuilder]

Here we have a source dick rider. How's that Cream of SomeYoungGuy taste? I heard you like it with soy sauce. Fucking PEDO!

It's impressive that your registered almost 11 years ago and still have the maturity of a teenage boy! Years of drug abuse really takes a toll on one's brain.

 

[Red-5]

Can you not pay through alibaba anymore?

I don’t think you can. Even if you could Tracy has to send a link.

 

[HydrillaGorilla]

Here's a timeline of events for people who ordered recently / need to order.

02-12 - Messaged on Whats app for price list
02-13 - Price list sent and instructions for how to order
02-13 - Placed order
02-15 - Tracy sent bitcoin payment information
02-15 - Sent Transaction Hash ID
02-17 - Got left on read.
02-20 - Asked for update on tracking information
02-23 - Tracking information sent as well as how to distinguish what is what in the order.
02-23 - Order was split. International/domestic. Domestic order arrived. International order tracking number shows it's in transit.

I should note according to the tracking numbers both packages got sent on 02-18.

The Tren E that arrived looks good. Haven't pinned it yet, but I'm sure its great.

Thanks for the update! I went the email route and it is much slower going than it used to be and with Alibaba gone there is no option to pay with CC which sucks. I sent payment on 2/18 and still haven't received tracking info or verification of payment received which is pretty atypical for these guys. I have always had great results and order turn around so hopefully they get the kinks worked out soon.

 

[PUMPED]

It does seem to be taking longer then in the past.

 

[shabsofthemoon]

Big boy here running below from QSC

EOD

SUS250 1ml
NPP 1ml
Mast E 0.75ml

Potentially switch to Deca if NPP agrees with me

letsgooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[Texas01]

Ordered 2/20
Paid 2/21
Tracking 2/22
Expected delivery 2/26
Domestic USA Order

Y’all just gotta be patient.
Not once did I text after 2/21 asking for tracking, just had to wait

 

[HydrillaGorilla]

Well, at least pin it first for feels report. Aside from that, remember every batch differs on raw purity as well as proper brewing which only hplc test can provide.

Anyway, I know you guys love QSC but for transparency at least include gear quality, pip as well as results when giving out reviews.

If you want a review of their quality from an actual user experience then here you go:

Tren E: Slight PIP starting about 2 days post pin lasting 2 days tops - very minor. I'm homicidal on 350mg a week and require 1.25mg of Caber per week to keep Prolactin in check. Strong as fuck and peeled to the bone so I would say its GTG.

Mast E: Pins super smooth. Zero PIP Massive libido boost and super positive mood induced by this compound. I use it to offset Tren E sides. GTG

Primo E: Very slight PIP after first couple of injections. Positive mood and physique effects but honestly preferred the mood boost from Masteron so I tend to use that instead. My wife is currently running the Primo at 24mg/wk and is already seeing phenomenal results at the 4 week mark with so unexpected side effects from fake compounds. We went out to dinner tonight and her back has grown so much that she snapped the eye off her size 2 dress when she pulled herself up into my F250 and flexed her lats in the dress. She is hornier than I have ever seen her but we have had some fights because she is getting cunty and aggressive on it when we disagree about shit. GTG

Test E. I have run 8 bottles of this and honestly it has been EXTREMELY brutal. MASSIVE PIP lasting for 6 days after injection. I have tried deep IM, slin pin and even SUB Q and just let me say, NEVER pin that shit sub q. I got massive red and purple bruising that lasted over a week. I don't know what was up with that batch but I will never order the Test E again.

Anavar Raw: Absolutely love this shit. I drop the powder under my tongue and let dissolve then drink an energy drink and borderline feel like I am on a mild stim dose. My wife has run it with phenomenal results and no unexpected sides. Does everything Var is supposed to do include horrific lower back pumps by week 4 which is usually when I drop it.

Anadrol: Bought in pill form. Feels AMAZING probably my new favorite oral. Super positive like Dbol but not as over intense and it didn't make my liver feel like it was going to fall out. Have run two 6 week cycles with good results GTG

Telmisartan: Bought it when they sold pills. Works as expected. I take 160mg per day to keep my BP in line on up to 2 grams of gear per week

MK677: I bought when they had pills. Appetite is SAVAGE and I gained a ton of weight in short order. It causes bizarre body temp fluctuations and crippling lethargy so I pulled the plug on it but seemed GTG

Arimidex: Bought it in pill form and it kept my E2 in line at exact same dose as I use of pharma grade dex. GTG

Cialis: Bought in Powder form and it works TOO good. I cannot take more than 5mg a day without getting crushing headaches and I have to take Nexium with it to control heartburn

There is run down of most of what I can remember running from them so far. Whenever I get my Test C and Deca I will report back on that too.

 

[grantsterdude]

You can find others' preparations by searching for this in the homebrew section or elsewhere on the internet quite easily. This isn't relevant to the topic of this thread.

then dont read it fuck nuts