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[RiceNKimchi]

MK-677

Be ravenous

What happened to swole baby?

 

[RiceNKimchi]

Everything is assbackwards these days man. Glp1 drugs have proven in studies to cause significant lean mass loss and I guess that’s just A OK. I mean it’s 2023, having big muscles was so 2019. That shit went out of style along with bodybuilders tracking macros.

It depend who you talk to. I've always been into aesthetics. Huge muscles was never the goal. Fit, athletic, strong. Been around for a bit and it's always been my goal.

 

[Disarmer]

What's a "side effect profile"?

Can you elaborate on this?

 

[Ttran1485]

Everything is assbackwards these days man. Glp1 drugs have proven in studies to cause significant lean mass loss and I guess that’s just A OK. I mean it’s 2023, having big muscles was so 2019. That shit went out of style along with bodybuilders tracking macros.

Did they conduct studies on bodybuilders on steroids, eating enough protein + working out losing significant lean mass during GLP-1 usage? Or are you just looking at studies conducted on grandmas losing lean mass during a calorie deficit on GLP-1 and then pulling that conclusion out of your ass?

 

[SYNTAX_ERA]

why bad side effect profile?

Not the kind of drug you want to take connor. Is a powerful psychotropic.

 

[jackmeoff1]

Don't think that will prevent it from inducing insulin sensitivity. It's really really bad with MK677, probably using insulin itself would be the only way to really counteract it. It induces it differently than HGH due to its Ghrelin mimicking, cant remember where I saw that but I am pretty sure.

I think you mean insulin resistance.

I took mk677 for 2 years straight and my blood sugar was not impacted unless I over ate on a bulk but that happened when I bulked prior to mk677.

It’s the excess calories that cause insulin resistance and mk677 is such a great appetite inducer that if you aren’t tracking your food it is incredibly easy to over eat.

 

[RiceNKimchi]

Did they conduct studies on bodybuilders on steroids, eating enough protein + working out losing significant lean mass during GLP-1 usage? Or are you just looking at studies conducted on grandmas losing lean mass during a calorie deficit on GLP-1 and then pulling that conclusion out of your ass?

Glp1s lose weight, mass. If there are other studies showing opposing views I'm open to them. All I've seen is they lose weight with no factoring of muscle vs fat

If you're looking for studying on bodybuilders on aas, all you'll get is acedotal accounts. It's unethical to put a subject on aas to study on them in this day and time

 

[SYNTAX_ERA]

You do.not want to take ssri meds just to increase appetite lol

If we can front load 3 grams of tren. Anything is possible. I don't want to be bigger, i want to become a god lol

 

[jackmeoff1]

Did they conduct studies on bodybuilders on steroids, eating enough protein + working out losing significant lean mass during GLP-1 usage? Or are you just looking at studies conducted on grandmas losing lean mass during a calorie deficit on GLP-1 and then pulling that conclusion out of your ass?

Yeah scientists biggest concern is studying bodybuilders. What kind of question is that?

It’s conceivable that healthy people using it can mitigate lean mass loss from gl1-p but it’s also conceivable that they will lose lean mass. THAT is what I conclude and that is what anyone with two non biased brain cells to rub together would conclude.

Furthermore, you CAN lose fat just as efficiently and fast in the absence of GLP-1 drugs so to me, and I would think this would be true for most bodybuilders who umm you know require some form of self control in order to look like a bodybuilder anyways, wouldn’t t want to be the god dam ginny pig. Control what goes in your mouth and stop being a bitch, is what I say. The side effects of these drugs alone are enough to keep me away.

And anecdotally , I know 2 bodybuilders who came in flat AF when using glp-1 drugs in their prep.

 

[Hypemaker]

Did they conduct studies on bodybuilders on steroids, eating enough protein + working out losing significant lean mass during GLP-1 usage? Or are you just looking at studies conducted on grandmas losing lean mass during a calorie deficit on GLP-1 and then pulling that conclusion out of your ass?

You know if I came in here talking shit about tren... or test c I would rightly be told to stay in my lane (did you know the studies say it can cause a stroke... or a seizure ?!!?!?! )

Why are we turning drug use into a culture war. Everyone should use their gray market drugs to do whatever the fuck they want to their body.

 

[RiceNKimchi]

If we can front load 3 grams of tren. Anything is possible. I don't want to be bigger, i want to become a god lol

Longevity is the only concern

 

[mchammertime]

Everyone loves Tren, who doesn’t like Tren?

 

[RiceNKimchi]

Everyone loves Tren, who doesn’t like Tren?

My bloodwork doesn't, sad face

 

[DECLAN]

I'm gonna wait for the GLP-1 VS STEROIDS thread and debates, it's already beginning. Gym bros on roids telling fat people to learn to eat and not use GLP-1 drugs while fat loss fanatics telling bodybuilders to stop using drugs to build muscle and cut.

Everyone on each other's throats lol.

 

[Qingdao Sigma Chemicals]

I'm gonna wait for the GLP-1 VS STEROIDS thread and debates, it's already beginning. Gym bros on roids telling fat people to learn to eat and not use GLP-1 drugs while fat loss fanatics telling bodybuilders to stop using drugs to build muscle and cut.

Everyone on each other's throats lol.

GLP-1 and green tea is for ladies.
Real men should stick to chicken breasts and DNP

 

[RiceNKimchi]

GLP-1 and green tea is for ladies.
Real men should stick to chicken breasts and DNP

Bro back on his tren

 

[narta]

What happened to swole baby?

MF grew up

 

[DECLAN]

Yeah scientists biggest concern is studying bodybuilders. What kind of question is that?

It’s conceivable that healthy people using it can mitigate lean mass loss from gl1-p but it’s also conceivable that they will lose lean mass. THAT is what I conclude and that is what anyone with two non biased brain cells to rub together would conclude.

Furthermore, you CAN lose fat just as efficiently and fast in the absence of GLP-1 drugs so to me, and I would think this would be true for most bodybuilders who umm you know require some form of self control in order to look like a bodybuilder anyways, wouldn’t t want to be the god dam ginny pig. Control what goes in your mouth and stop being a bitch, is what I say. The side effects of these drugs alone are enough to keep me away.

And anecdotally , I know 2 bodybuilders who came in flat AF when using glp-1 drugs in their prep.

Your argument will look flawed especially if you're using a group of people who will use diuretics and dnp to lose weight/fat, then use diabetic/muscle wasting drugs to put size. GLP-1 fanatics will find so much holes in your premise then add all the deaths related to aas on top of it.

Better find a more solid angle for your argument.

 

[Laxbro88]

I think you mean insulin resistance.

I took mk677 for 2 years straight and my blood sugar was not impacted unless I over ate on a bulk but that happened when I bulked prior to mk677.

It’s the excess calories that cause insulin resistance and mk677 is such a great appetite inducer that if you aren’t tracking your food it is incredibly easy to over eat.

Yes that’s what I meant, good to know it’s an overstated side effect

 

[RedMatterGG]

Accutane raws are easily degraded by UV radiation and other exposure, so they put them in airtight UV resistant capsules im pretty sure.

Mk677 will stimulate appetite but will fuck you insulin sensitivity so its not really a trade off I would be willing to take. Also the water retention is unreal with it, turned me into a water buffalo and shot my resting heart rate up over 100.

Use it alongside metformin/berberine,issue solved for the insulin resistance,as for the water retention,astragalus 2g+ daily+dandelion root 1g+low dose weak diuretic