Pumps on Turinabol feel "fake" w/o high carbs

[IndividualMan]

What the title says.

I have leftover Tbol from the QSC days, used it sporadically last summer, ~10-20mg/day for 3 weeks until the cramps (primarily nut cramps) made it unbearable.
Last month i used some TBOL preworkout at 30mg SubL, and got a massive pump. arm size went almost an inch above a normal arm pump, but it kinda felt your first tadalafil boner. It is there, but its not really yours. No vascularity, it felt like those "fake balloon muscles" tehy show in cartoons. Really strange.

Yesterday, i gave it another shot, same thing again. low on food, 30mg Tbol,m assive arm pump, little to no vascularity, and once again, it felt "empty" and "fake".

Has anyone else experienced this? it is really really odd..

 

[Oldhand]

Hey!

I usually get a decent pump with tbol, but less than on drol. You’re not chasing a crippling drol pump are you?

Your title says “w/o high carbs”- what are your carbs at? Do you eat carbs before the gym? Maybe experiment here a bit.

For what it’s worth I tried that baking soda trick a few times. I didn’t notice anything beside a gassy belly.