PSA Opti green tops extremely milky

[brutalbuilt]

This is it. No commercial formulation of rHGH has managed to create a stable 60iu/ml formula.

For UGL 12iu / ml is the max one should use, and eve. that's pushing it. 10iu/ml would be better.

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Aggregation can take a minute. Sooner or later it likely would've been visible.

ive used 30iu hgh vials and it worked perfectly fine.. put on 10 pounds soon as i started taking it

 

[brutalbuilt]

homemade bac, use it for countless other peptides and gh from other vendors. I tried a second green top with the same bac, its cloudy, but ive seen this level of cloudiness before and i am okay with it. The first one i did literally looks like whole milk

homemade bac tf use hospira bac

 

[Ghoul]

ive used 30iu hgh vials and it worked perfectly fine.. put on 10 pounds soon as i started taking it

I'll let the pharma companies know their scientists have been scamming them for decades.

 

[brutalbuilt]

I'll let the pharma companies know their scientists have been scamming them for decades.

results dont lie, doesnt matter what a piece of paper says

 

[crispybacon!]

The thing with the gold tops (not necessarily the main subject of this thread), is that one might reasonably assume they are selling the same batch since March based on test results on the website. So unless they are into a new batch, which hasn’t had test results published, it seems odd these problems would crop up suddenly.

Just had an email exchange with Opti about the gold tops. He confirmed he is still selling the same batch that is reflected in the latest Jano test on his site. He also confirmed he’s aware of and actively trying to get to the bottom of the cloudy recon issues (specifically with gold tops, as greens are known to recon cloudy).

Based on this, I’m going to order a couple more kits and will update here when I get around to using them.

I also suggested he update the forums on his findings to clear the air.

 

[Nixonnow99]

Just had an email exchange with Opti about the gold tops. He confirmed he is still selling the same batch that is reflected in the latest Jano test on his site. He also confirmed he’s aware of and actively trying to get to the bottom of the cloudy recon issues (specifically with gold tops, as greens are known to recon cloudy).

Based on this, I’m going to order a couple more kits and will update here when I get around to using them.

I also suggested he update the forums on his findings to clear the air.

Thanks for doing that brother. Glad to hear that he is digging into the issues. Read some good news posted over on SST about this issue as well. Inspires confidence in his products again. Gonna put in an order soon.

 

[Anonymous member 154437]

results dont lie, doesnt matter what a piece of paper says

10 pounds of water is not impressive

 

[brutalbuilt]

10 pounds of water is not impressive

muscle is 80% water

and if it moves the scale and i get bigger thats all that matters... thats why we take drugs

 

[psauce]

I have no doubt that you you can get more HGH to remain intact and bioavailable in solution than what pharma does. What is very doubtful, from theory and experiment, is that substantially higher concentrations deliver all of the HGH in usable form.

The chemistry behind why this occurs has plenty of layers, but the very first level of analysis is pretty instructive. The chem 101 rate law tells us that any process that has two of the same reactant is a second-order reaction, so aggregate concentration is proportional to the square of HGH concentration.

For someone who needs a highly homogeneous concentration from each volume of injection for a medically necessary intervention, lower concentrations solve many problems. The rest can be solved with the addition of buffers, stabilizers, and surfactants.

For a UGL, it may make sense to take a few measures to reduce aggregation, but simply throw in a pile of the compound and let the user deal with the discomfort of the immune response. You'll get higher concentrations of HGH, it just won't be the concentration you'd calculate by dividing IUs by solvent volume.