Primal test C 250 and 4 IU hgh

[BigDadd7]

Here's my recent bloodwork on @Primal_Pharma 250 test c/week and gh 4iu daily.

Total T 3060
Free T 1100.1
E2 128
IGF 1 147 (baseline 94)
Z score 0.2 (baseline. -0.7)

Almost a full 1 standard deviation swing to the right on the z score.

I'm working on that E2!

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Here's my recent bloodwork on @Primal_Pharma 250 test c/week and gh 4iu daily.

Total T 3060
Free T 1100.1
E2 128
IGF 1 147 (baseline 94)
Z score 0.2 (baseline. -0.7)

Almost a full 1 standard deviation swing to the right on the z score.

I'm working on that E2!

DM brother, let's get you that store credit applied!

 

[Photon]

Here's my recent bloodwork on @Primal_Pharma 250 test c/week and gh 4iu daily.

Total T 3060
Free T 1100.1
E2 128
IGF 1 147 (baseline 94)
Z score 0.2 (baseline. -0.7)

Almost a full 1 standard deviation swing to the right on the z score.

I'm working on that E2!

Boobies are coming!!

 

[BigDadd7]

Boobies are coming!!

I'll tell you what's weird, I'm feeling no sides from this. And that is exactly why i tell everyone to get bloodwork and not trust feelz! I've already jumped up my ai and I will be retesting in 10 more days. I will adjust my ai accordingly. I'm going to throw in a little eq as well, but I'll wait until after I get this sorted a bit.

I love titties, just not on me!

 

[Ghoul]

I'll tell you what's weird, I'm feeling no sides from this. And that is exactly why i tell everyone to get bloodwork and not trust feelz! I've already jumped up my ai and I will be retesting in 10 more days. I will adjust my ai accordingly. I'm going to throw in a little eq as well, but I'll wait until after I get this sorted a bit.

I love titties, just not on me!

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Which AI? Some are more IGF friendly than others...

 

[ShutUpAndPump]

Bro, the test is legit, but the hgh not.
I've about the same baseline igf-1 as you, and when I use 4iu my igf-1 is at least 400, with e2 in normal range / with e2 crashed / with hypocaloric diet / with hypercaloric diet, so it is bunk

 

[BigDadd7]

Which AI? Some are more IGF friendly than others...

Aromasin. I'm taking 25 twice a week.

 

[BigDadd7]

Bro, the test is legit, but the hgh not.
I've about the same baseline igf-1 as you, and when I use 4iu my igf-1 is at least 400, with e2 in normal range / with e2 crashed / with hypocaloric diet / with hypercaloric diet, so it is bunk

I'm not saying you're wrong, but there is Jano testing on it, and that z score made a major change.

 

[RockyP]

Bro, the test is legit, but the hgh not.
I've about the same baseline igf-1 as you, and when I use 4iu my igf-1 is at least 400, with e2 in normal range / with e2 crashed / with hypocaloric diet / with hypercaloric diet, so it is bunk

No.

For starters, his E2 is too high, which suppresses GH to IGF-1 conversion.

Second, the serum IGF-1 levels are of dubious utility for performance enhancement as high levels can mean you have more igf1 binding proteins and the igf1 is circulating doing nothing instead of being in the muscle. Chase Irons igf1 was around 200 when he was running 18 iu of serostim.

I suspect his iGF1 will be higher when the E2 is brought down to normal range. But even that is not necessarily related to efficacy. People with pituitary adenomas can have igf1 in the thousands and they’re not muscular and lean.

 

[RockyP]

Here's my recent bloodwork on @Primal_Pharma 250 test c/week and gh 4iu daily.

Total T 3060
Free T 1100.1
E2 128
IGF 1 147 (baseline 94)
Z score 0.2 (baseline. -0.7)

Almost a full 1 standard deviation swing to the right on the z score.

I'm working on that E2!

That’s quite a total test level for 250/week. What was the proximity to your last pin when the labs were drawn?

 

[ShutUpAndPump]

No, with these theories, we're giving those who are selling us extremely under-dosed or completely false hgh the opportunity to get away with it. There are rare cases where IGF-1 doesn't increase, but they are extremely rare cases of liver failure, of insensitivity to the hormone, but they are VERY RARE CASES. Anyone here who shows up with a slightly increased IGF-1 while taking several units of GH is because they are injecting fake products! I don't care about Chase Irons, this is going in the wrong direction, we're giving those who should be selling us real products the opportunity to sell us junk, and we're silencing each other with these theories that IGF-1 doesn't always increase with GH. But don't talk nonsense, look at medical studies where there are teenagers who, with about 6 units combined with letrozole, have IGF-1 values around 700, ALL OF THEM! Here, however, there are people who inject themselves with 10 units and have 100 IGF-1 levels and blame it on low estrogen levels or a low-calorie diet. NO! It's your GH's fault, which is fake!

 

[RockyP]

These trolls need to up their game. TG for ignore.

 

[BigDadd7]

No.

For starters, his E2 is too high, which suppresses GH to IGF-1 conversion.

Second, the serum IGF-1 levels are of dubious utility for performance enhancement as high levels can mean you have more igf1 binding proteins and the igf1 is circulating doing nothing instead of being in the muscle. Chase Irons igf1 was around 200 when he was running 18 iu of serostim.

I suspect his iGF1 will be higher when the E2 is brought down to normal range. But even that is not necessarily related to efficacy. People with pituitary adenomas can have igf1 in the thousands and they’re not muscular and lean.

I appreciate information like this. I'm new to hgh and stil learning. That's one of the reason I posted this up. Thank you.

 

[BigDadd7]

That’s quite a total test level for 250/week. What was the proximity to your last pin when the labs were drawn?

48 hours. Not ideal, but that's what works with my schedule. I will say, I always test quite high.

 

[Ghoul]

Bro, the test is legit, but the hgh not.
I've about the same baseline igf-1 as you, and when I use 4iu my igf-1 is at least 400, with e2 in normal range / with e2 crashed / with hypocaloric diet / with hypercaloric diet, so it is bunk

High, especially supraphysiological, e2 levels suppress GH to IGF conversion. At 3x normal e2 levels, IGF being cut in half from what would be expected isn't surprising.

 

[RockyP]

48 hours. Not ideal, but that's what works with my schedule. I will say, I always test quite high.

That’s a great problem to have!

 

[ShutUpAndPump]

These trolls need to up their game. TG for ignore.

Troll? I spent a little of my time trying to clarify things, hoping that we would all benefit from it, rather than being fooled with a smile, evidently it's a waste of time

 

[Elektrobot]

Troll? I spent a little of my time trying to clarify things, hoping that we would all benefit from it, rather than being fooled with a smile, evidently it's a waste of time

You can't even read the rules of a forum, follow the etiquette or do the one thing you are supposed to do as a new member..... and you want people to listen to your incorrect rant about the GH being bunk?

 

[sionnach]

Hey I've been looking around for decently priced aromasin that ships internationally do you mind telling me your source please?

Walgreen's has it.

 

[TheDieselZ]

Good god you must be a hyper response to test. Back when I did 250mg from the trt clinic a week I was at like 1400.