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[AlexDavis43]

Tren Ace 200 -> 219.56mg/mL
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Tren Ace 200 GCMS
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Tren Ace 100 -> 101.86mg/mL
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Tren Ace 100 GCMS

Looks like no funny business

TRA200 has BA BB MCT and tren ace

TRA100 has BA MCT and tren ace

no vegetable oils

 

[DeafJam]

GCMS Tests Below (few more to come) -

EQ500

EQ300

NPP200

NPP100

Test C250

Test P200

Test P100

Deca 300

Deca 200

Is the ~25% BA and no BB in the Test C250 correct?

 

[Andrewthatguy]

Tren Ace 200 -> 219.56mg/mL
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Tren Ace 200 GCMS
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Tren Ace 100 -> 101.86mg/mL
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Tren Ace 100 GCMS

Can someone explain what the fuck the bottom half of these tests are showing? Yeah I know, im retarded.

 

[newguy2]

There’s this long running gym myth that Primo “kills e2.” Sounds cool, but reality is less Hollywood. Primo isn’t an AI, and there’s no solid evidence it directly lowers estrogen. Estrogen doesn’t read forum posts.

Same thing with Masteron. Half the gym swears Mast annihilates e2. In practice, it mostly annihilates your wallet and gives you that dry look. No solid evidence it works like an AI either.

What usually happens is way less magical. Guys drop their test and crank up Primo. Less test means less aromatization. Boom, e2 drops. Primo gets the credit like it just won Mr Olympia.

Another possibility people bring up is vials not being what the label says, or being cut with something else. If something like EQ is involved, that can absolutely change how e2 behaves for some guys. Not saying that’s the case, just saying it’s one reason bloodwork stories get messy.

Then there’s body fat. Lose fat, aromatase tends to drop, e2 can drop. Again, not Primo sorcery, just biology doing biology things while we argue online.

To be fair, plenty of guys do see lower e2 on bloods while running Primo. Others see nothing move. Both can be true. Different bodies, different test doses, different fat levels, different labs, different vials.

So if Primo tanks your e2, congrats, you’re special. If it doesn’t, also normal. Hormones don’t care about vibes, gym lore, or what your favorite influence

Same here lol, I've got about 10,000 or so Easy Touch I stocked up on, and now I find out there's a better and cheaper option. Son of a...

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This f***ing guy. I'm over here with 500 lmao.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Is the ~25% BA and no BB in the Test C250 correct?

no BB appears correct

 

[Photon]

Is the ~25% BA and no BB in the Test C250 correct?

Keeps everything sterile

 

[The Answ3r]

Can someone explain what the fuck the bottom half of these tests are showing? Yeah I know, im retarded.

Man, this is nerd shit. I don’t fully understand every line either, and neither do 90% of the guys yelling about it. But here’s the simple version.

That bottom half is the machine running extra scans like a paranoid spotter checking if the bar is straight. GCMS breaks the compound into tiny pieces and looks at the pattern. Tren has a very specific fingerprint. Those tall spikes are the “yep, that’s Tren” moments. If those line up, you’re good.

The little random spikes are just background noise, oil fragments, or trace junk. Not dirt, not hair, not mystery poison. Every test has them. A perfectly flat graph would actually be weird.

So don’t overthink it. Big spikes where Tren should be = Tren is there. The rest is nerd math so lab guys can justify their degree.

 

[Andrewthatguy]

Man, this is nerd shit. I don’t fully understand every line either, and neither do 90% of the guys yelling about it. But here’s the simple version.

That bottom half is the machine running extra scans like a paranoid spotter checking if the bar is straight. GCMS breaks the compound into tiny pieces and looks at the pattern. Tren has a very specific fingerprint. Those tall spikes are the “yep, that’s Tren” moments. If those line up, you’re good.

The little random spikes are just background noise, oil fragments, or trace junk. Not dirt, not hair, not mystery poison. Every test has them. A perfectly flat graph would actually be weird.

So don’t overthink it. Big spikes where Tren should be = Tren is there. The rest is nerd math so lab guys can justify their degree.

Oh okay thanks for breaking that down for me. I don’t understand the top half much either than the fact it says what shit is all in there. Fucking nerds make my head hurt with all this complicated shit

 

[DeafJam]

no BB appears correct

Yeah. I don’t brew, but I try not to be completely ignorant. Every recipe I have seen, and the Test C I’ve tested usually has 1-2% BA and BB plus or minus 20%.

Keeps everything sterile

You’re not wrong. Can’t have a gold medal chemist losing half of their half ass to infection with this blend.

 

[Flankstake]

Keeps everything sterile

Could be the reason for pip too. I didn’t think test-c could hold at 250mg/mL without BB.

 

[AIRBORNE DADDY]

It's actually a Ren and Stimpy reference ha. I could never use stims like that or addy for meal replacement. They do kill my appetite but I can't work on them. They make me kinda "roll" too much the same way ppl get on like MDMA and I'm just useless on them

I cant either anymore. A line of me#$ would have me jerkin off 24hrs and calling off work.

 

[snelly13]

@Primal_Pharma - What's the BA/BB concentration for the recent batch of test prop?

 

[Clappincheeks]

TC250 P11 GSMC
TC250 P12 GSMC
TC200 Pharma GSMC

Pharma one looks loaded

Can some one explain why Pharma grade has so much more in it then the UGL GSMC test results.

 

[Alvinq]

Can some one explain why Pharma grade has so much more in it then the UGL GSMC test results.

Probably cottonseed oil (or similar) based.

Paper with gcms of cottonseed oil

 

[bigstepper]

@Magenzus can you share specific details on how you prepared your sample for the primo 100 gcms?

It appears one of two things are true…

1) You compromised the sample with contamination

2) @Primal_Pharma intentionally mis-represented product again.

 

[Magenzus]

@Magenzus can you share specific details on how you prepared your sample for the primo 100 gcms?

It appears one of two things are true…

1) You compromised the sample with contamination

2) @Primal_Pharma intentionally mis-represented product again.

Sure dude. Pretty simple. Washed and wiped hands with alcohol. Opened the sealed vial and wiped top rubber with alcohol and air dried. Same for the testing sealed vial. Opened syringe and needle. Extracted and put into testing vial. First time doing a lab test but I cant think I could have been more methodical. Everything was sealed and new.

 

[bigstepper]

Sure dude. Pretty simple. Washed and wiped hands with alcohol. Opened the sealed vial and wiped top rubber with alcohol and air dried. Same for the testing sealed vial. Opened syringe and needle. Extracted and put into testing vial. First time doing a lab test but I cant think I could have been more methodical. Everything was sealed and new.

Thanks. I guess we’ll see what @Primal_Pharma has to say.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Can some one explain why Pharma grade has so much more in it then the UGL GSMC test results.

seed oils bro

like 10 of those compounds are seed oil fatty acids (or bastardized relatives)

 

[BigDadd7]

Sure dude. Pretty simple. Washed and wiped hands with alcohol. Opened the sealed vial and wiped top rubber with alcohol and air dried. Same for the testing sealed vial. Opened syringe and needle. Extracted and put into testing vial. First time doing a lab test but I cant think I could have been more methodical. Everything was sealed and new.

That sounds like a great way to do it.

 

[Magenzus]

I mean the goal of sending to Jano (at the moment I did not know Primal would reinburse), was to be completely safe and focus on harm reduction/ peace of mind. Hence why I spent over $400.00 to test. So that’s all I can say as far as my handling is I was absolutely making sure to be as precise and clinical as possible since I was to pin this shit. So at least from my own end I am confident and feel my approach was the best possible.

I dont have issues with Primal, I continue to buy his gear and love his process. But I do prefer to test. Soon Ill send some mots and glow for testing, both from Primal.