For clarity sake, can you mention your purchase date (or close to it). Primal is sending in product for testing, but with the current narritive it wont mean much in all honesty. So I believe what we need is more 3rd party testing from vials out in the wild to dig into this further proving or disproving the discrepencies.
Maybe the sample can be re-tested if enough was sent it originally? Although I think asking Jano to confirm theres no errors noted on their end/uploads would be a good first step. Whoever sent in the samples, maybe you already asked and I missed it, but would be dope if you could.
I saw a few people mentioned they were sending samples in so hopefully those start rolling in soon. I have NPP100, TE250 and MASTP100 from October 6th that I could be bothered to send to Jano. I have sealed vials so theres no variables from sample handling/mislabeling/cross contamination.
Yes actually, went through 15g vial at 1mg/week (a little less actually but close enough). Was using it before from another vendor for a long time. If you search through my posts in October I actually came here to mention that it felt more potent than my previous product, meaning my previous was either underdosed or lost potency before getting to me imo.
I just stopped taking it for the first time since I started Reta and man my hunger signals are back and better than before.. I actually get hungry which was not the case before even starting reta. Not to mention Ive been gaining weight (good weight, bf barely budged 1%) currently up ~8lbs since start of the year. Tbf I was definitely underweight from cutting too hard without even trying lol
Brother, as an outsider (idk you so not actually judging your character by this) but your approach currently in the last few days alone comes across as emotional, personal, and like your in this thread with a sole motive to destroy Primal. The criticism is valid and most here including myself, are advocating for resolutions, BUT they dont give off the same "personal" vibes as you..
Examples quoted above; why even bother saying shit like that to a member asking a legitimate question? They can obviously read and type to be on the forum so they've seen the noise but still had a question. Comes off as grasping at opportunities to bad-mouth the source.. which brings back into question why? Just because your mad?.. I doubt it..Cant imagine a grown man doing that.
Take a look at your peers, we are all saying the same things aside from one or two being accussed as shills. Look at their posts and compare the tones. Instead of seizing the opportunity to use a members question as an outlet for your emotions, consider posting your concerns and contributing to the conversation of how we can stop this from happening again (with any source). How do you contribute to conversation of members affected and those who have gallons of gear they need to validate?
Sources do not need to be "buried", they will bury themselves if you keep proper pressure on the factual points. Comments like these are counterproductive to your goals.. they actually only feed the sources claims at the cost of your credibility.
Peptide powders all come from China, theres no domestic ugl source whipping up your glp-1s using low quality ingredients. They are either buying the bulk lypholized powders or (more likely) buying already in sterilized vials for resell. Theres a reason a domestic market exist and why the price difference gets paid.. and its not only because ppl dont know better.
The last thing you want is for a source to vanish and reappear as a new vendor utilizing the same protocols until they get caught up again or worse, someone gets hurt. What motive would a source have to actually make the investments and adjust their processes to uphold the standards we are pushing for from a black market? Much cheaper to disappear for a bit, re-brand and repeat the process all over again.. Reimbursing, coveirng testing fess, handling with the logistics of shipping samples/replacements, changing equipment, protocols and ect are a fuck ton more expensive and taxing work wise than having chatgpt spin up a new brand and buying new labels....
The opportunity here should be to create a system where it doesnt matter who is behind the vial, but focus is on the vial itself. If we have GCMS data and raw testing, we can make an informed decision. The brand behind the vial is related to how well they adhere to systematic testing, proper processes, comparisons w/ 3rd party testing, sterility, contamination report history, ect. No shade to ANY source, but as a consumer your seeking drugs from a drugdealer in a black market... I dont think anyones word should ever be taken as truth and data-driven systematic approach is our best (only?) attempt at true harm reduction.
If anyone thinks any source that has been "run off a forum" just closes up shop and stops brewing than they are delusional. You can close the door here, but they will just knock on another.. and another.. until they lose the physical ability to knock or have their freedom to do so locked up. Unfortunately, that usually happens after the damage has been done.
Again, im not judging your character from these posts. Im just saying as someone who agrees with the concerns we are upholding, it doesnt strengthen our narrative and only feeds the sabotage narritive your so strongly fighting against.
How about establishing a 3rd party testing list with purchase dates to help align members in hand products with testing results more likely lined up with their "batch number" than the original test that only corresponds to first "sub-batch". Maybe help create a concrete outline (SOP) we can standardize across the board. Raw testing, then brewing, final product gcms and quantitative, routine 3rd party testing and system to reflect source vs consumer finished product comparisons.. maybe a score/number of strikes which can trigger a review of wether their accounts are allowed to remain on the forum..
TLDR for the bros:
You shouldnt trust strangers ever, but especially when it comes to drugs online. Even drug addicts test their drugs, and most arent going to be injecting w.e it is they got. This is no different. Creating a system that highlights as many red flags as we can look for and ensure a set of agreed green flags are met for "a more confident buy".
Sry I started typing this last tnight and ended up with a 2yr vomiting with a 102 fever from a Virus..
p.s I did catch up on the thread before sending this out I see some members have made these points in that time, but just reiterating I agree with them. Gonna get my popcorn ready brb lol
