No AI.Wow, E2 is perfect. For me I'd be over 100. Ai?
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No AI.Wow, E2 is perfect. For me I'd be over 100. Ai?
they live sheltered lives and think shit like that doesn't happen 1million times daily.Why do fat guys always think they pulled some amazing transformation just by losing weight?
Wtf, did this dude raid a pharmacy. I would give up after 1 day taking all of that. Absolutely asinine lolPrimalPharma TRT / cruise bloodwork
38 YO
6’1
185 lbs
~11% bf
Former fat kid. Down 85 lbs total in the last 12 months, while adding real lean mass. DEXA scans this past year have been fun.
This was TRT bloodwork pulled by my PCP. I ordered a few extra markers myself.
Cut ended 10/5. Took about a week off injections completely. From 10/12 to 11/25 I ran a Primal TRT/cruise leading into labs. No injections the day before or day of blood draw.
Protocol was Primal Test P 10 mg daily + Test C 12.5 mg daily. Total 22.5 mg per day (~158 mg/week). Daily micro pins. Also ran Primal Proviron 25 mg oral daily.
Adjuncts & Ancillaries at the time of labs:
• 4 mg retatrutide
• 4 IU HGH pre-bed
• 5 mg rosuvastatin
• 10 mg ezetimibe
• 40 mg telmisartan
• 5 mg nebivolol
• 12.5 mg HCTZ
• 10 mg tadalafil
• 50 mg mirabegron
• 10 mg dapagliflozin
• 10 mg SLU
• 40 mcg clen
• 5 mg ivabradine
• 20 mg accutane
• 2 g TUDCA
• 10 mg cardarine (first ~3 weeks)
• 400 mg injectable glutathione 2x weekly
Supplements:
• Multivitamin
• Fish oil ~4 g/day split
• Vitamin D3/K2
• Magnesium glycinate 300 mg
• Vitamin E
• CoQ10
Cutting cycle prior to this (ended 10/5):
• Test E 60 mg
• Mast E 40 mg
• Primo 30 mg
• Primal Tren Ace (harm reduction) 5-10 mg
• Primal Winny 25 mg (last 2 weeks)
Since labs I’ve dropped all fat burners, SGLT2 inhibitor, mirabegron, SLU, and ivabradine. Cut’s done. Health is good, insulin sensitivity is primed. Time to eat and grow without wrecking bloods.
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it's pure ignorance.... a prime example of what not to do. people are dumb.Wtf, did this dude raid a pharmacy. I would give up after 1 day taking all of that. Absolutely asinine lol
That's just like.... your opinion, man.Wild stack but y'all some real haters lol.
jesus dude mirabegron and clen together is kinda nuts. How'd you feel on that?PrimalPharma TRT / cruise bloodwork
38 YO
6’1
185 lbs
~11% bf
Former fat kid. Down 85 lbs total in the last 12 months, while adding real lean mass. DEXA scans this past year have been fun.
This was TRT bloodwork pulled by my PCP. I ordered a few extra markers myself.
Cut ended 10/5. Took about a week off injections completely. From 10/12 to 11/25 I ran a Primal TRT/cruise leading into labs. No injections the day before or day of blood draw.
Protocol was Primal Test P 10 mg daily + Test C 12.5 mg daily. Total 22.5 mg per day (~158 mg/week). Daily micro pins. Also ran Primal Proviron 25 mg oral daily.
Adjuncts & Ancillaries at the time of labs:
• 4 mg retatrutide
• 4 IU HGH pre-bed
• 5 mg rosuvastatin
• 10 mg ezetimibe
• 40 mg telmisartan
• 5 mg nebivolol
• 12.5 mg HCTZ
• 10 mg tadalafil
• 50 mg mirabegron
• 10 mg dapagliflozin
• 10 mg SLU
• 40 mcg clen
• 5 mg ivabradine
• 20 mg accutane
• 2 g TUDCA
• 10 mg cardarine (first ~3 weeks)
• 400 mg injectable glutathione 2x weekly
Supplements:
• Multivitamin
• Fish oil ~4 g/day split
• Vitamin D3/K2
• Magnesium glycinate 300 mg
• Vitamin E
• CoQ10
Cutting cycle prior to this (ended 10/5):
• Test E 60 mg
• Mast E 40 mg
• Primo 30 mg
• Primal Tren Ace (harm reduction) 5-10 mg
• Primal Winny 25 mg (last 2 weeks)
Since labs I’ve dropped all fat burners, SGLT2 inhibitor, mirabegron, SLU, and ivabradine. Cut’s done. Health is good, insulin sensitivity is primed. Time to eat and grow without wrecking bloods.
Labs attached. View attachment 367990View attachment 367991View attachment 367994View attachment 367995View attachment 367996
Test reta and GH should have been more than enough for that transformation idk why u took all of this• Test E 60 mg
• Mast E 40 mg
• Primo 30 mg
• Primal Tren Ace (harm reduction) 5-10 mg
• Primal Winny 25 mg (last 2 weeks)
man he’s obviously a young buck that’s why i’m glad i never told anyone my crazy ass stacks because slowly over the years i’ve only improved on which supplements and ancillaries to use, newer gen solutions, etc.
it’s just that when you’re learning all this stuff through research, trial, and error, AND you’re young, of course you’re gonna come across jealous older people who did everything they were told by everyone in their life forever. lived their lives by people’s opinion.
so when you start to question things, they’ll disguise that envy and animosity as “what you’re doing is so risky, i am concerned” instead of “what you are doing risks proving my world was nothing but a bubble”….
Do you mind to open a thread for your cycle? It would give some the opportunity to talk over some stuff with you. I have a thought but don’t want to turn the thread into your cycle log. Tag me if you don’t mind when you do. Just don’t open it into the underground section.Appreciate the tips and you’re right. Plan for the bulk is simple. 50mg Test and 20mg EQ and 4IU GH. Reassess after 10 weeks.
testosterone was orally bioavailable itd be far, far more commonly used. its the aversion to injections which many a GLP user are finding, isn't that bad (hence kitchen sink peptide protocols with scant science supporting their use).
@Dial It In your a good man for this comment. I'm a lurker still in my research and your comment right here made me feel comfortable let alone the OP i'm sureDo you mind to open a thread for your cycle? It would give some the opportunity to talk over some stuff with you. I have a thought but don’t want to turn the thread into your cycle log. Tag me if you don’t mind when you do. Just don’t open it into the underground section.
This too. Was on it for some time. It works, but not as effective as injecting, also very expensive.It is, twice daily pills.
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Thank you for this Ghoul. I appreciate you. It has disgusted me seeing the way some treat newcomers. Given this is supposed to be a forum for harm reduction. Thank you for treating me and others well when we ask questions.Two years ago that loud mouthed jackass needed his brother to tell him he had low T (it was that obvious apparently).
Now he’s pinning Tren and talks down to beginners like he carries the lifelong experience of a competitive bodybuilder and can barely stand their presence.
Pretending bullying is out of “concern”, but not offering any actionable advice. Go through his post history and that’s all he’s ever done here. Dumped on newbies to work out the frustrations of his impotent life and insecurities by abusing members.
Worse, we now we have hangers on trying to emulate that asshole.
Appreciate that brother. Same for you as well if you’d like to open a thread if you like and @ me. I’ll bring in some guys that provide great insight to assist if they are willing. Yes I am abrasive sometimes and admit that. Just I’ve let some of the issues on the forum in general push my buttons. Forum full of testosterone and tren and the demons come out sometimes.@Dial It In your a good man for this comment. I'm a lurker still in my research and your comment right here made me feel comfortable let alone the OP i'm sure
I get it and especially in the Underground thread, it has it's place in here, it's good to see the harm reduction efforts as a newer guy to the game, some fourms don't really have that effort or drive. It's also good to see it from all angles, plus it gives me information to researchAppreciate that brother. Same for you as well if you’d like to open a thread if you like and @ me. I’ll bring in some guys that provide great insight to assist if they are willing. Yes I am abrasive sometimes and admit that. Just I’ve let some of the issues on the forum in general push my buttons. Forum full of testosterone and tren and the demons come out sometimes.
Respect, that’s grown man behavior. Always refreshing to see someone who can own their edge instead of hiding behind keyboard rage. Way better than the usual haters who once touched “elite athlete” status for about five minutes and now spend their time tearing everyone down, despite having maybe two years on gear themselves.Appreciate that brother. Same for you as well if you’d like to open a thread if you like and @ me. I’ll bring in some guys that provide great insight to assist if they are willing. Yes I am abrasive sometimes and admit that. Just I’ve let some of the issues on the forum in general push my buttons. Forum full of testosterone and tren and the demons come out sometimes.
