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[Dumbellsanonymous]

Thanks Man! Yeah I won’t be going to high since I’m not chasing sides. I’ll go up to 300mg if no sides show up. (Said everyone every time lol)

You ain't lying I wanna go higher but my heart is telling me otherwise

 

[Dumbellsanonymous]

I'm at 50 mg eod and zero side effects - however - feeling great and being great on the inside are not the same. I'm pulling bloods soon to see what's what. I don't see any reason to increase my dosage even though no side effects. The effects are so drastic, so quick to come on.

I know man tren is fucking amazing lol

 

[MacSalad]

Placed my first order with Primal and sent in blind tests to Jano. I was pretty skeptical about the higher dosed products but not anymore

 

[BigChungusRX]

FYI: Lab ranges are out of date.

2.83mg HS-CRP is elevated. (If at least 2 tests in a row >1mg), and >2mg has clear elevated heart attack and stroke risk. Literally just announced a couple days ago, after being suspected for 30 years.

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Prioritizing Health | hsCRP: A Promising Risk Assessment Tool - American College of Cardiology

www.acc.org

Hey man when you get a chance check on the message I sent you.

 

[Crx221]

Placed my first order with Primal and sent in blind tests to Jano. I was pretty skeptical about the higher dosed products but not anymore

I just pulled the labs on his GH & it was spot on. We appreciate you for this!

 

[RockyP]

What kind of numbers would you start to look at a statin?

I run ezetimibe- LDL is 55 HDL 30. Figure im not needing one yet

are those numbers on cycle or Off? If on, bless your heart. Great genetics. I would prob track hsCRP on cycle even if your lipids are that low and if it’s over 1 at any time that would be a reason )in my view) to hop on something like Pitavastatin 2 mg and maybe even vascepa for anti inflammatory benefits.

There was a recent change in the thinking among cardiologists, neurologists, etc (or at least there should be ongoing discussion about) regarding there being an LDL too low scenario. It was thought for a long time that dropping LDL under 50 was unsafe for integrity of cell membranes and could lead to spontaneous hemorrhaging. I don’t have the link handy now but Ghoul or Photon I believe shared it. It’s about 18 months old. Basically says that the evidence for this fear is lacking and that every 36 point drop in LDL (including if you’re starting from 55) drops risk of cardiac event 20% (not certain if they last piece of data is from the dame
Paper but it’s accurate regarding 36, 20%).

Also, another reason I hammer my LDL is because my HDL is always low. It’s just a gene I’ve got. Even before PEDs I was never over 45. Anything over 200 test drops me under 40, adding primo gets me down to 25, and I can’t wait to see where I’m at now on test / tren / mast. Thing is, with an LDL of 50, this low HDL is essentially irrelevant.

 

[yummypasta314]

Placed my first order with Primal and sent in blind tests to Jano. I was pretty skeptical about the higher dosed products but not anymore

Love to see that Mast result.

 

[RockyP]

Placed my first order with Primal and sent in blind tests to Jano. I was pretty skeptical about the higher dosed products but not anymore

Very nice. Thank you for testing. Those are some of the most accurate numbers I’ve seen from this vendor. Really impressive actually.

 

[ANAL_Bolic]

are those numbers on cycle or Off? If on, bless your heart. Great genetics. I would prob track hsCRP on cycle even if your lipids are that low and if it’s over 1 at any time that would be a reason )in my view) to hop on something like Pitavastatin 2 mg and maybe even vascepa for anti inflammatory benefits.

There was a recent change in the thinking among cardiologists, neurologists, etc (or at least there should be ongoing discussion about) regarding there being an LDL too low scenario. It was thought for a long time that dropping LDL under 50 was unsafe for integrity of cell membranes and could lead to spontaneous hemorrhaging. I don’t have the link handy now but Ghoul or Photon I believe shared it. It’s about 18 months old. Basically says that the evidence for this fear is lacking and that every 36 point drop in LDL (including if you’re starting from 55) drops risk of cardiac event 20% (not certain if they last piece of data is from the dame
Paper but it’s accurate regarding 36, 20%).

Also, another reason I hammer my LDL is because my HDL is always low. It’s just a gene I’ve got. Even before PEDs I was never over 45. Anything over 200 test drops me under 40, adding primo gets me down to 25, and I can’t wait to see where I’m at now on test / tren / mast. Thing is, with an LDL of 50, this low HDL is essentially irrelevant.

I didnt know statin decrease hsCRP. Thats very welcoming. When i got my hsCRP and cholestorol checked my hsCRP was at 1 and ldl 130. Added ezit my ldl went to 90, wasnt satisfied so added lowest possible dose of Rouvastatin and my ldl sits at 49, I havent got my hsCRP or apob checked since starting the statin. This is while on cycle, my HDL is low as well

 

[dcfreak]

are those numbers on cycle or Off? If on, bless your heart. Great genetics. I would prob track hsCRP on cycle even if your lipids are that low and if it’s over 1 at any time that would be a reason )in my view) to hop on something like Pitavastatin 2 mg and maybe even vascepa for anti inflammatory benefits.

There was a recent change in the thinking among cardiologists, neurologists, etc (or at least there should be ongoing discussion about) regarding there being an LDL too low scenario. It was thought for a long time that dropping LDL under 50 was unsafe for integrity of cell membranes and could lead to spontaneous hemorrhaging. I don’t have the link handy now but Ghoul or Photon I believe shared it. It’s about 18 months old. Basically says that the evidence for this fear is lacking and that every 36 point drop in LDL (including if you’re starting from 55) drops risk of cardiac event 20% (not certain if they last piece of data is from the dame
Paper but it’s accurate regarding 36, 20%).

Also, another reason I hammer my LDL is because my HDL is always low. It’s just a gene I’ve got. Even before PEDs I was never over 45. Anything over 200 test drops me under 40, adding primo gets me down to 25, and I can’t wait to see where I’m at now on test / tren / mast. Thing is, with an LDL of 50, this low HDL is essentially irrelevant.

Appreciate this reply, brother.

Those numbers were on 280/350/70 test/mast/tren with 25mg anavar 4-5x a week.

LDL on cruise (before adding ezetimibe) was 110 so the ezetimibe cut it in half.

Rebounding now on 350 test/ 280 Primo (and 20-30mg Superdrol the last few weeks just to grab some pics). Im sure the Primo will drop that HDL even with all the fish oil.

 

[RockyP]

Appreciate this reply, brother.

Those numbers were on 280/350/70 test/mast/tren with 25mg anavar 4-5x a week.

LDL on cruise (before adding ezetimibe) was 110 so the ezetimibe cut it in half.

Rebounding now on 350 test/ 280 Primo (and 20-30mg Superdrol the last few weeks just to grab some pics). Im sure the Primo will drop that HDL even with all the fish oil.

Not to worry. With that low LDL the low HDL is much less relevant

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

Placed my first order with Primal and sent in blind tests to Jano. I was pretty skeptical about the higher dosed products but not anymore

Solid deal on heavy testing. Looks good.

 

[Crx221]

Pulled labs on the black tops, 4iu subq & bloodwork was down about 8 or so hours later the next morning.

 

[Raiders789]

Another reason why I also take Vascepa along with Pita and Zetia. Side effect free anti-inflammatory effects. I take it even though my Trig's are normal.

While I still don't think that taking pro competitor levels of Gear and HGH will ever be safe, the information on this Board posted by @Ghoul and others regarding statins and other interventions will assuredly save and prolong a lot of lives of the guys on here. Everyone is different, but between statins, Zetia, Nexletol, Repatha, GLP-1's, and some other tricks (berberine, nattokinase, TUDCA, glutathione, etc.) I think the safety profile for recreational medium gear users (say up to 1500 mg / week) is DRASTICALLY shifted if one adheres to an aggressive prevention protocol.

I've never heard of Vascepa - a quick google search says its just an omega 3 fatty acid supplement but contains icosapent ethyl which is like the pure EPA part in normal EPA + DHA fish oil supps. I saw that theres a slight increase in afib risk with it - is that something you're worried about? Also, how strong have you seen the anti-inflammatory effects from it? Like say for me for example, if I were to add this with my rosu/ezetimibe combo which keeps my hsCRP ~1, could I expect any meaningful drop? Would love the extra anti-inflammaotry effects if the risk is minimal even if my base inflammation is already in a good spot.

You got me really interested, I'm gonna see if my indian pharma guy has it

 

[Ghoul]

I've never heard of Vascepa - a quick google search says its just an omega 3 fatty acid supplement but contains icosapent ethyl which is like the pure EPA part in normal EPA + DHA fish oil supps. I saw that theres a slight increase in afib risk with it - is that something you're worried about? Also, how strong have you seen the anti-inflammatory effects from it? Like say for me for example, if I were to add this with my rosu/ezetimibe combo which keeps my hsCRP ~1, could I expect any meaningful drop? Would love the extra anti-inflammaotry effects if the risk is minimal even if my base inflammation is already in a good spot.

You got me really interested, I'm gonna see if my indian pharma guy has it

Vascepa lowers risk of cardio events more than the reduction of Triglycerides alone can explain. It’s believed to be the anti-inflammatory effects and endothelial function improvement responsible.

It’s a 2x a day supplement FYI.

What is the mechanism of Icosapent Ethyl?

Icosapent Ethyl, marketed under the brand name Vascepa, is a medication primarily used to reduce cardiovascular risk in individuals with elevated trig

synapse.patsnap.com

 

[Dial It In]

I've never heard of Vascepa - a quick google search says its just an omega 3 fatty acid supplement but contains icosapent ethyl which is like the pure EPA part in normal EPA + DHA fish oil supps. I saw that theres a slight increase in afib risk with it - is that something you're worried about? Also, how strong have you seen the anti-inflammatory effects from it? Like say for me for example, if I were to add this with my rosu/ezetimibe combo which keeps my hsCRP ~1, could I expect any meaningful drop? Would love the extra anti-inflammaotry effects if the risk is minimal even if my base inflammation is already in a good spot.

You got me really interested, I'm gonna see if my indian pharma guy has it

It’s hard to find with India pharma but if you do find it let us know

 

[Photon]

I've never heard of Vascepa - a quick google search says its just an omega 3 fatty acid supplement but contains icosapent ethyl which is like the pure EPA part in normal EPA + DHA fish oil supps. I saw that theres a slight increase in afib risk with it - is that something you're worried about? Also, how strong have you seen the anti-inflammatory effects from it? Like say for me for example, if I were to add this with my rosu/ezetimibe combo which keeps my hsCRP ~1, could I expect any meaningful drop? Would love the extra anti-inflammaotry effects if the risk is minimal even if my base inflammation is already in a good spot.

You got me really interested, I'm gonna see if my indian pharma guy has it

Just get it from your PCP.
It's fish oil.

9$/3months

Official Patient Site

VASCEPA® (icosapent ethyl) is a prescription medication approved, along with certain medicines (statins), to reduce the risk of heart attack, stroke and certain types of heart issues. Please see Indication and Important Safety Information.

www.vascepa.com

 

[bighoss86]

My recent blood panel was pretty rough. Hdl ldl apob, all ass. Im going to try a non statin approach first to see what happens.

Niacin
Red rice yeast
Fiber

Anyone tried this with good results?

Currently taking 175mg week TC
150mg week Deca

I did just get off 6 weeks of 40mg anavar about 3 weeks ago. But my lipids were pretty bad.

 

[ackmack78]

My recent blood panel was pretty rough. Hdl ldl apob, all ass. Im going to try a non statin approach first to see what happens.

Niacin
Red rice yeast
Fiber

Anyone tried this with good results?

Currently taking 175mg week TC
150mg week Deca

I did just get off 6 weeks of 40mg anavar about 3 weeks ago. But my lipids were pretty bad.

If they're that bad drop the red rice yeast and just get on a statin. Red rice yeast is hit or miss anyways

 

[Ghoul]

My recent blood panel was pretty rough. Hdl ldl apob, all ass. Im going to try a non statin approach first to see what happens.

Niacin
Red rice yeast
Fiber

Anyone tried this with good results?

Currently taking 175mg week TC
150mg week Deca

I did just get off 6 weeks of 40mg anavar about 3 weeks ago. But my lipids were pretty bad.

Niacin is proven to be at best neutral and doesn’t help at all, and at worst has a long list of potential harms it causes.

Niacin Therapy Shows No Benefits, Has Some Harmful Effects - American College of Cardiology

www.acc.org

Red yeast rice that lowers LDL IS a statin, just one that slips past the FDA because it’s in a supplement bottle. It’s just the worst statin, in a form that’s never the same dose twice and roughly the quality of one made in a bathtub instead of a regulated pharma lab. The list of countries banning it (mainly for kidney injury) grows every year.

https://files.nccih.nih.gov/s3fs-public/Red_Yeast_Rice_11-30-2015.pdf