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Same report run on Test-C in MCT from Primal. Oxidation, if any, below what GCMS can detect. A night and day difference.

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Same report for Test-c 200 in GSO from an FDA licensed compounding pharmacy. Oxidation also below GCMS detectable limits.

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Credit to @TallandSmall for original tests

@TallandSmall thread

 
Same report run on Test-C in MCT from Primal. Oxidation, if any, below what GCMS can detect. A night and day difference.

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Same report for Test-c 200 in GSO from an FDA licensed compounding pharmacy. Oxidation also below GCMS detectable limits.

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Credit to @TallandSmall for original tests

@TallandSmall thread


GCMS is not the right test for this.
 
(Not Primals) Somebody in a discord on 11-17 claimed this image was 86% EQ raws. He was able to lighten the color a little bit with a process he claimed uses Bleach Powder, Activated Charcoal, solvents, vacuum chamber. Guessing this is the same raws making everyone’s recent batch of EQ golden
 

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GCMS is not the right test for this.

Granted, it can’t detect early oxidation, but above the minimum threshold it’s a good test.

It doesn’t falsely detect oxidation, it’s just not as sensitive as we’d like.

We went from being completely blind to at least becoming aware of severe oxidation.
 
(Not Primals) Somebody in a discord on 11-17 claimed this image was 86% EQ raws. He was able to lighten the color a little bit with a process he claimed uses Bleach Powder, Activated Charcoal, solvents, vacuum chamber. Guessing this is the same raws making everyone’s recent batch of EQ golden
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Lol no way. Has to be a joke because I’m lost once I heard the word bleach.
 
I don’t know nothing other than EQ raws are liquid. He could easily be trying to bamboozle me but he was posting pretty thorough videos of the process. Would have been a ultra high effort bamboozle
 
I don’t know nothing other than EQ raws are liquid. He could easily be trying to bamboozle me but he was posting pretty thorough videos of the process. Would have been a ultra high effort bamboozle
I am also very limited on brewing knowledge. I’d just think “how would you get the bleach out” after it mixes with the raws???
 
“how would you get the bleach out” after it mixes with the raws
The bleach powder is ionic and insoluble in the solvent used to hold the eq. After quenching there are no active oxidizers.
BUT
The eq molecule has two distinct parts with double bonds and are isolated alkene. Doing this causes chlorination of the solvent. Injecting chlorinated solvent causes necrosis and gangrene in the injection area. That guy shouldn't touch brewing again.
 
(Not Primals) Somebody in a discord on 11-17 claimed this image was 86% EQ raws. He was able to lighten the color a little bit with a process he claimed uses Bleach Powder, Activated Charcoal, solvents, vacuum chamber. Guessing this is the same raws making everyone’s recent batch of EQ golden
Saw the pics of that “83 % golden-brown EQ raw” floating around the TG. Cute.

For the people still entertaining the “just bleach it bro” cope: please stop.

Bleaching raws (whether with NaOCl, Ca(OCl)₂, H2O2, or whatever pool-shock derivative these Telegram wizards are jerking off to) is one of the dumbest ideas that keeps resurfacing in this hobby like herpes.

Eq is a Δ1,4-diene-3-one. Those conjugated double bonds are exactly what gives it color when you have even trace oxidation or conjugated impurities. You don’t “bleach” conjugated systems without adding across the damn double bonds or fragmenting the A-ring. You get 1,2-addition junk, epoxides, chlorohydrins if you’re using hypochlorite, and a whole cocktail of polar garbage that crashes out at 0.22 µm and stings like liquid fire when you pin it.
Free chlorine or hypochlorite at brewing pH (usually 6–9 depending on how lazy the cook is) will preferentially hit the 17β-OH way before it touches whatever pigmentoid they’re mad at. Congrats, you just oxidized your boldenone to boldione and maybe some 17-chloro bullshit if you’re really unlucky. Potency just took a 30–50 % haircut and now you’ve got androgenic trash that piperazines wish they could be.
Even if by some miracle you only oxidize the colored impurities and not the steroid nucleus (you won’t), the excess oxidant has to go somewhere. It doesn’t magically vanish. You now have chlorinated organics, quinones, and God-knows-what in your vial. Post-injection pain? Allergic reactions? Random fevers three days later? Yeah, that’s your immune system trying to figure out what the fuck you just shot into your glute.
Real labs that actually deal with discolored tren or eq raws (yes, it happens) either (a) do proper column chromatography on silica/alumina, (b) recrystallize multiple times, or (c) just accept slightly yellow oil because it’s still 99+ % pure and literally doesn’t matter. They do not dump bleach in the beaker like they’re cleaning a public toilet.
The brown/golden color in supposedly high-purity EQ almost always comes from oxidized sebacic acid residues or metal-catalyzed air oxidation during the boldenone liberation step from the diol. It’s ugly, but it’s pharmacologically irrelevant at the levels we’re talking about. If your source can’t figure out how to keep air out of a flask for 4 hours, that’s a them problem, not a “add Clorox” problem.

tldr: anyone telling you to bleach raws is the same intellectual tier as the guys who think crashing with water is high-IQ brewing. Stop coping, buy from someone who isn’t colorblind, and leave the pool chemicals where they belong.
 
Any eq that isnt pale yellow and is amber is heavily oxidized. A oxidized Boldenone molecule wont bind to ARs correctly. It is safe to inject but just very weak if not ineffective
Would that show up as less mg/ml, "weaker", in testing?
 
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