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Photon said:
Not to pop your bubble but almost every US Dom vendor reimburses..
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Rewind back some months. The original reimbursement policy was very generous and I can't remember who was the first to change from store credit. I aint going to look it up. But it was quite the change.
 
Primal_Pharma said:
I don’t have a pretty graph or parity plot to drop in here, but I do keep a very simple spreadsheet where I track vendor test we run alongside blind customer result that gets posted. Vast majority of tests are clustering right around label, and then you have a couple of outliers that everyone already knows about.

For example, on Mast P200 our internal result for that lot was about 197 mg/mL and a customer blind test came back at 153 mg/mL. On Test C50, our internal came back at 58 mg/mL and a customer test landed at 63 mg/mL. Those are the types of points that I have.
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The term outlier does bring up a good point and that is where the parity plot with a running data set would come in handy. First question is what is an outlier and how do we determine an outlier? What caused the outlier? That is a serious term in the statistical sense.

Up to you to clearly communicate your batch sizes and what is a batch (which should share a common homogenous content).

Then to put myself in your shoes, you have to have constraints in place to guard and against tampering and have methods to detect it.

I have contributed what I could to hopefully reduce batch to batch variance and minimize batch concentration error.
 
Tk1000 said:
I have 15 vials of each batch for Test C. Going to send in a full sealed vial from each batch.

I am also planning to transfer the remaining vials to new vials with better stoppers this weekend. I am considering taking a small amount from each vial per batch and combining into a vial for testing. I would be getting the average quantity for the 14 vials for each batch, correct? Would this be useful at all?
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It's been discussed before but if you put them all into one large vial, or at least all of one batch. Make sure it is thoroughly mixed and send a sample from that large pot you know exactly what you then had

But like someone said this may affect your reimbursement as I think primal wants a sealed vial sent to avoid tampering.
 
newguy2 said:
It's been discussed before but if you put them all into one large vial, or at least all of one batch. Make sure it is thoroughly mixed and send a sample from that large pot you know exactly what you then had

But like someone said this may affect your reimbursement as I think primal wants a sealed vial sent to avoid tampering.
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No no it will not affect reimbursement for this one.

@Tk1000 I trust you will do the right thing. Like the boys said, make sure it’s mixed properly. And please let me know if you would like me to reimburse up front. Whatever I can to do help, just holler.
 
readalot said:
@Photon, glad i am at least amusing you with all the "laugh" reactions. Really not my intent but at least you are having a good time.
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Glad to see you back.
Don't burn yourself out.
it's not worth it.

Gonz0 said:
Had 3 bottles of anadrol 50 I got from primal awhile ago , I found out that they may have been part of the batch that was actually 34mg. Reached out last week and they sent me 7 bottles of the anadrol 25 as replacement. Very happy with how they handled this !
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This source is great if you're
(1) active on the forum or are willing to keep track about what's going on (how else would you know about the adrol issue?)
(2) willing to test whatever you get.

Else you might want to look for sources who do things right vs make things right.
 
Gonz0 said:
Had 3 bottles of anadrol 50 I got from primal awhile ago , I found out that they may have been part of the batch that was actually 34mg. Reached out last week and they sent me 7 bottles of the anadrol 25 as replacement. Very happy with how they handled this !
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Same thing here.

I saw Primals’s post about the drol @ 34mg so I reached out to him. He sent new bottles and the process was very painless.
 
newguy2 said:
It's been discussed before but if you put them all into one large vial, or at least all of one batch. Make sure it is thoroughly mixed and send a sample from that large pot you know exactly what you then had

But like someone said this may affect your reimbursement as I think primal wants a sealed vial sent to avoid tampering.
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Looks like I can get a 100ml Ks-Tek sterile vial in a couple days. While it won't hold all 140ml for each batch it will have to do. I can pull evenly (~7ml) out of the 14 vials to get as close to 100ml as possible and draw from there or I can just do 10 vials. Any suggestions on what everyone would like to see?

@Primal_Pharma I will follow up when I have everything transferred and ready to send out. I will document my process too.
 
Tk1000 said:
Looks like I can get a 100ml Ks-Tek sterile vial in a couple days. While it won't hold all 140ml for each batch it will have to do. I can pull evenly (~7ml) out of the 14 vials to get as close to 100ml as possible and draw from there or I can just do 10 vials.
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It can hold 110ml or so.
 
Tk1000 said:
Looks like I can get a 100ml Ks-Tek sterile vial in a couple days. While it won't hold all 140ml for each batch it will have to do. I can pull evenly (~7ml) out of the 14 vials to get as close to 100ml as possible and draw from there or I can just do 10 vials. Any suggestions on what everyone would like to see?

@Primal_Pharma I will follow up when I have everything transferred and ready to send out. I will document my process too.
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Wouldn't use.


Are they clean and sterile? No USP rating.

Check out UltraSpec or ALK 100 ml.
 
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