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[k710]

Not really. T Cypionate is way less testosterone by mass that T propionate, something like 68% for cyp and 93% for prop, off the top of my head. You can look it up though. Ester weight makes a huge difference. So you're actually taking less.


Test it.

Prolactin was 15ish ng/L. Nothing out of range, just higher than I usually am.

Yeah thats what I was referring to when I said the shorter esters pack a noticable punch. I only have 2 un-opened vials left and have no interest in working with old supplier again so dont really see the value in sending it out for testing. The primo was already pretty costly, and lab testing to justify two more vials (1 after testing) isnt really worth while for me. Id rather just not use it for now.

There was another member report on meso of someone who tested the same brand primo from about a month before I purchased mines and the jano said it was boldenon.. obviously taken with a grain of salt but I think im just gonna stick to blood results to help me identifty in this particular situation. If I was trying to work with the supplier would be a different story. Never expect to put myself in this situation again though. Newbie mistakes were made lol

Plus now I have the banana bros and you guys!

My prolactin baselevels of 15ish were blamed on my ssri usage, but now im not sure if the spikes were caused from hcg protocol or elevated estrogen until I started primo. So much trial and testing

 

[DoubleDeez]

And I was first on page 545, my favorite round (AK-74 fangirl). Life is beautiful.

 

[sionnach]

now im not sure if the spikes were caused from hcg protocol or elevated estrogen until I started primo. So much trial and testing

You'll never really be sure of the effects of anything as long as you're on the hcg, because it introduces a whole new list of variables. If you want to be on it for the possibility of kids, the uncertainty is just something you have to deal with.

 

[AllGoodThings]

And I was first on page 545, my favorite round (AK-74 fangirl). Life is beautiful.

Best comment in the past dozens of pages

 

[k710]

You can pull bloodwork for Estrone LC/MS (for EQ).
But for the cost of that, you're better off just sending it to Jano for testing and getting it reimbursed.

Waiting for estradiol to come back, if its low definitely going to run estrone. I think its like $30-40 from where I get my labs done if im remembering correctly.

The mexican lab isnt going to refund me for testing lol They dont even have a thread here, but have been mentioned a few times from my searches. Nothing good though. Selective scammers, product test results showing half dosed gear, shadyness. If only I had found this place before. Grateful I decided to do a test order

 

[AllbrandNew]

Best comment in the past dozens of pages

I'm holding out for page 4570.

 

[sionnach]

I'm holding out for page 4570.

Based lever enjoyer

 

[k710]

You'll never really be sure of the effects of anything as long as you're on the hcg, because it introduces a whole new list of variables. If you want to be on it for the possibility of kids, the uncertainty is just something you have to deal with.

Not doing it for immediate fertility needs, but wanted to be proactive in not letting my testes atrophy. Also helped with libido and keeping the glazing station in business so would like to continue it. Re-evaluating hcg protocol when I go over labs with coach, but they pretty much said verbatim what you just told me last round of labs. Sigh.

If you guys need me, ill be nipples deep in the prolactin/hcg forums for a bit xD

 

[oldage]

Successful TD from PP! Placed an order last week, grabbed a few vials of BPC-157 for my shitty elbow, a couple vials of Reta for my owner’s next cut, and a vial of TE250 for him as well. And our dude hooked it up and threw in an extra of each! We don’t have the luxury of being super geographically close so it did take about 5 days to get here but I’m not complaining. The day after it shipped, I happened to see @Primal_Pharma in the wild and almost shit my pants. Idk how he can be everywhere at once. Preciate chu guys! View attachment 354710

Anything but vanilla

 

[Tbaz192]

True, some of them seem to not even understanding their own dosing protocol like Breon Ansley, or Jay Cutler who didn’t know parabolan is tren lol. I think James English is on the smarter side based off of what I’ve seen from him on some podcasts

just saying.
You can’t make assumptions with zero evidence that proves it’s fake. Nothing from primal has been fake or underdosed enough
To warrant these claims.

Sounding like Koreanguy.

I took 60mg primo following a coach who said he personally used it for e2 control since AI didn’t agree with him. 60mg didn’t do shit to my E2. Everyone responds different to every compound.

 

[k710]

just saying.
You can’t make assumptions with zero evidence that proves it’s fake. Nothing from primal has been fake or underdosed enough
To warrant these claims.

Sounding like Koreanguy.

I took 60mg primo following a coach who said he personally used it for e2 control since AI didn’t agree with him. 60mg didn’t do shit to my E2. Everyone responds different to every compound.

Hey man, I think you might have mis-read the convo at some point. No one is claiming anything, saying anything about primal gear. I also think you might be responding to the wrong person. I was talking about current primo im using from a different supplier and I did mention 60mg so im assuming you meant to respond to me.

Just wanted to clear things up so jdub isnt catching strays because of me lol

I think at 60mg primo, I got a more aggressive reduction in e2 than I was expecting. Everyones different forsure, thats why I was saying I wish there was a faster way to figure this out other than trial/error and repeating labs every 4 weeks.

Now if this is in regards to something else with jdub, then my appologies for my assumption.

 

[jdub1]

just saying.
You can’t make assumptions with zero evidence that proves it’s fake. Nothing from primal has been fake or underdosed enough
To warrant these claims.

Sounding like Koreanguy.

I took 60mg primo following a coach who said he personally used it for e2 control since AI didn’t agree with him. 60mg didn’t do shit to my E2. Everyone responds different to every compound.

1. He never said the primo was primal’s, in fact you can reasonably presume that it isn’t primal due to the fact primal primo hasn’t been available since the stone ages.
2. I almost exclusively use primal product and have spent probably 2k at primal in the past month
3. You said “60mg didn’t do shit” to my e2 which further validates my observation that for most people 60mg of primo shouldn’t be cutting your e2 in half, which points to the likelihood that his primo is possibly eq.
4. I’m not aware of the “Koreanguy” lore
5. Due to the rapid onset aggressive tone my tren meter detected coming from you I would recommend lowering tren dosage to reduce further brain cell loss and neurological remapping.

 

[Mastedon]

I’m not aware of the “Koreanguy” lore

 

[dcfreak]

Since the vial won't ever heat up to a higher temp than the mug warmer is set to, you can leave it on there as long as is necessary to get it back into solution. If you don't want to do that every time you pin (crashed gear will tend to crash again), you can use a baby wipe warmer for storage after you've done your magic with the mug warmer. I leave my TNE, injectable Superdrol, and methyltrienolone in mine so their always ready to go.

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I dont have a mug warmer but I put 5 or 6 vials on my hotplate and got distracted for a few mins. Vials got pretty dang hot.

Well at least they havent crashed again

 

[AllGoodThings]

I dont have a mug warmer but I put 5 or 6 vials on my hotplate and got distracted for a few mins. Vials got pretty dang hot.

Well at least they havent crashed again

Mug warmers, at least the ones I've seen, are controlled by a thermostat. Mine has three settings, and even this highest won't damage the hormone. Hot plate might get too hot, not sure about those temps.

 

[Jonboy]

I dont have a mug warmer but I put 5 or 6 vials on my hotplate and got distracted for a few mins. Vials got pretty dang hot.

Well at least they havent crashed again

I haven’t had anything from primal crash yet, but I do like to warm my oils before injection. I have a heating pad im using most nights anyways, so I just lay what vials of oil or oils I’m planning on injecting on the heating pad and it warms them really quick. Not sure if it will work for crashed oils but I’d assume it would, it can get them pretty hot pretty fast. Just another ideal you might try if ya have one.

 

[AIRBORNE DADDY]

I haven’t had anything from primal crash yet, but I do like to warm my oils before injection. I have a heating pad im using most nights anyways, so I just lay what vials of oil or oils I’m planning on injecting on the heating pad and it warms them really quick. Not sure if it will work for crashed oils but I’d assume it would, it can get them pretty hot pretty fast. Just another ideal you might try if ya have one.

Call me retarded but I popem in the microwave 10 seconds. Try it before ya knock it.

 

[Tbaz192]

1. He never said the primo was primal’s, in fact you can reasonably presume that it isn’t primal due to the fact primal primo hasn’t been available since the stone ages.
2. I almost exclusively use primal product and have spent probably 2k at primal in the past month
3. You said “60mg didn’t do shit” to my e2 which further validates my observation that for most people 60mg of primo shouldn’t be cutting your e2 in half, which points to the likelihood that his primo is possibly eq.
4. I’m not aware of the “Koreanguy” lore
5. Due to the rapid onset aggressive tone my tren meter detected coming from you I would recommend lowering tren dosage to reduce further brain cell loss and neurological remapping.

Ah guess I missed something. Apologies for making you type so many letters and words.
If only 5 was right

 

[imthankful]

Pulled labs, 8 weeks of 350mg TestC, pinned M,W,F - switched to PP week two, and 50mg Var ED. Thought I did LC/MS Estrogen, but did not. ALT 62, all else green

 

[detroba]

Using 400mg of the Test Cyp from primal and 300mg EQ. 6 weeks on 800test and 600 eq a week pin EOD. Crushed e2 but I lowered the eq to 400 after pulling these. Gear is great smooth and quick shipping. My test vial crashed but after warming it up it was perfect!