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[readalot]

There is a reason to upgrade hw, because most are not going to be refiltering and they can benefit from it. In fact, i wager majority of the people purchasing will benefit from it.

I'm not leading the project because my goal is to minimize any vendor bought gear, I just feel it's the only way to control the quality of what I inject. I have raws coming..and if it tests out good, I probably won't be using vendor bought gear anymore..

It's exhausting fighting with vendors and even forum members to push for change, I'm sure you understand, half the time you're fighting with someone about it lol. Even a simply change of a crimp that's less than 10c gets backlash.

Thank you for the thoughtful assessment and reply. Yes I understand. I am usually leaning towards the door. My stubbornness really the only thing keeping me engaged.

People want to put their Mast E in Styrofoam cup? Have at it. That would be another fun experiment.

 

[AllbrandNew]

The demons have been good to me this second time around. Night sweats and some heartburn but 4 weeks in I’m pretty pleased with Primal’s Tren A 100

Excellent!

 

[just some dude]

i don’t understand why it’s such a big thing to ask for quality gear…. peptides ok cheap out get a kit save money use pharma bac water.. but oils….. kinda can’t cheap out on those

 

[just some dude]

peptides: super cheap tested kits
oils: if it’s not pharma it’s not clean


tf? why can’t it be more equal, obviously oils take way more work and need way more additives to “hold”, but, still. not like the demand isn’t there, or like it’s insanely expensive

 

[just some dude]

it’s true though, when you think of peptides you don’t really care, but if you think of pharma gear vs ugl gear the “perceived value” of it is drastically different.

 

[BamaCrazy]

it’s true though, when you think of peptides you don’t really care, but if you think of pharma gear vs ugl gear the “perceived value” of it is drastically different.

 

[Photon]

The demons have been good to me this second time around. Night sweats and some heartburn but 4 weeks in I’m pretty pleased with Primal’s Tren A 100.

What's your weekly TRA dose at? 200?

 

[Photon]

it’s true though, when you think of peptides you don’t really care, but if you think of pharma gear vs ugl gear the “perceived value” of it is drastically different.

It's not we don't care, it's just that all peps come from China and they know you need them. They don't care wtf you want or think and nothing will change. It's also all from resellers who have no control. Plus peptide testing is insanely expensive. A vial of retatruride is 300 just for hplc.

 

[Bandern]

Austrian economist Ludwig Von Mises has a quote about the market providing both clean mast e and styrofoam mast e mixed with cock cheese

 

[BigDadd7]

The demons have been good to me this second time around. Night sweats and some heartburn but 4 weeks in I’m pretty pleased with Primal’s Tren A 100.

What dose are you running?

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Results back on the trenE200.

 

[BamaCrazy]

What's your weekly TRA dose at? 200?

150mg a week. Pinning EOD.

 

[BamaCrazy]

What dose are you running?

150mg a week pinning EOD. I’ve noticed increased strength in the gym. More vascular and veiny. Mood is great. Sleep is unchanged (I cannot say great because sleep is average on pure TRT). Appetite hasn’t changed. It’s been an easy 3+ weeks.

 

[BigDadd7]

150mg a week pinning EOD. I’ve noticed increased strength in the gym. More vascular and veiny. Mood is great. Sleep is unchanged (I cannot say great because sleep is average on pure TRT). Appetite hasn’t changed. It’s been an easy 3+ weeks.

I just started on tren e 100/wk

 

[AbsoluteKnight]

We (as a collective human race) understand what color means

Guys stop you’re going to start the readalot reich

 

[Ghoul]

It's not we don't care, it's just that all peps come from China and they know you need them. They don't care wtf you want or think and nothing will change. It's also all from resellers who have no control. Plus peptide testing is insanely expensive. A vial of retatruride is 300 just for hplc.

I agree they couldn't care less about quality or safety, unless it directly affects sales.

When dimer started to be measured, it progressively went down as vendors started competing on "low dimer" as a quality metric.

I'm sure the same would be the case if, for instance, sterility became a test customers expected vendors to provide.

If one or two sellers started including that in their test results, I think they'd all fall in line, and the rate of unsterile peptides would drop to almost nothing from the current ~5% immediately.

But since no one cares, labs aren't likely to spend 5¢ to make sure of it because they don't have to.

 

[RockyP]

I agree they couldn't care less about quality or safety, unless it directly affects sales.

When dimer started to be measured, it progressively went down as vendors started competing on "low dimer" as a quality metric.

I'm sure the same would be the case if, for instance, sterility became a test customers expected vendors to provide.

If one or two sellers started including that in their test results, I think they'd all fall in line, and the rate of unsterile peptides would drop to almost nothing from the current ~5% immediately.

But since no one cares, labs aren't likely to spend 5¢ to make sure of it because they don't have to.

Silly question - if the peptides themselves are not sterile, does the content of the BAC water provide enough to make them safe to use?

 

[Bandern]

Silly question - if the peptides themselves are not sterile, does the content of the BAC water provide enough to make them safe to use?

Safe to use, like many of us, is on a spectrum

 

[Ghoul]

Silly question - if the peptides themselves are not sterile, does the content of the BAC water provide enough to make them safe to use?

BAC doesn't kill bacteria, but it'll prevent them from multiplying.

There are a long list of health damaging risks from the cumulative impact of repeatedly injecting small amounts of bacteria and / or endotoxin that don't induce any acute reactions like an abscess or inflammation.

We know this from observational evidence of other injectable drug users, and their much higher rates of conditions attributable to bacterial infections that can escape immune system surveillance, sometimes "incubating" for years.

 

[BamaCrazy]

I just started on tren e 100/wk

I want to switch to E to reduce the EOD injections but I haven’t figured out to make the transition yet.