MESO-Rx Sponsor Primal Pharma - US Domestic

[Primal_Pharma]

Oh i totally get that, i just wanted confirmation on your process.
A yes or no is completely fine with me.

I'll take it as a Yes.

 

[Photon]

The first batch ran out of stock within 3 weeks of opening?

If you did not run out of stock
(1) do you mix tested batches with untested batches?
(2) If not, why would you send out untested batches, when tested batches are available?

 

[Primal_Pharma]

The first batch ran out of stock within 3 weeks of opening?

If you did not run out of stock
(1) do you mix tested batches with untested batches?
(2) If not, why would you send out untested batches, when tested batches are available?

Same source, brother, nothing “mystery” about it. You’re really reaching here.

We don’t mix tested and untested batches, and this isn’t some new, random brew. It’s the exact same raws from the same supplier, just a different run. The earlier batch happened to get tested first because that’s what we pulled at the time. This one’s already lined up for Jano as well.

You’re acting like we’re swapping out gas station gear between runs, it’s genuinely not that deep.

 

[Photon]

Same source, brother, nothing “mystery” about it. You’re really reaching here.

We don’t mix tested and untested batches, and this isn’t some new, random brew. It’s the exact same raws from the same supplier, just a different run. The earlier batch happened to get tested first because that’s what we pulled at the time. This one’s already lined up for Jano as well.

You’re acting like we’re swapping out gas station gear between runs, it’s genuinely not that deep.

Since tested and untested batches are not mixed, why would you send out untested gear, when tested gear is available?

Just curious here.
Did it run out of stock?
Or did you just decide to send out the untested ones instead?
Completely random?

Are you showing a Jano test for Batch 1, then sending out Batch 2, when Batch 1 is available?

 

[readalot]

Not going to go too in-depth but will answer the best we can.

Brew temps are run on the lower side to keep oxidation down and help maintain that lighter color. Same raws across each ester, but color can still vary a bit depending on both raw material and brew procedure.

Color isn’t just about the raws, it’s a combo of raw quality, handling, and how the brew is run. Even with identical raws, pushing temps too high or for too long will darken it.

What you’re seeing here is pretty close to the lightest we can get without compromising sterility.

On oxidation/degradation - Lower brew temps, minimal exposure to air, and tight control on storage all help keep the product stable and looking fresh.

Also planning to send this exact Tren E raw to Jano for testing to see where it comes in at.

Could you let me know when you have your lowest color tren ace vials achievable, which the testing group can purchase?

Vials will undergo HPLC and GCMS. Thank you.

 

[Photon]

Could you let me know when you have your lowest color tren ace vials achievable, which the testing group can purchase?

Vials will undergo HPLC and GCMS. Thank you.

I can send in 2 sealed vials of Stan's Tren A GSO, assuming he replies my emails lol. I think he just reopened shop yesterday.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Could you let me know when you have your lowest color tren ace vials achievable, which the testing group can purchase?

Vials will undergo HPLC and GCMS. Thank you.

Of course brother. And just to be clear, by lowest do you mean lightest? And no need to purchase, just send us the shipping details and we’ll get it out!

 

[superbane]

Brother, Tren doesn’t magically come out the exact same shade every single time like it’s paint from Home Depot. Same raws, same general process, but this is one of the most oxidation-prone compounds we deal with. Even tiny shifts in temp, time, or air exposure during the run can change the shade.

It can also change based on what carrier oil is being used.

It can change off of how old the carrier oil is being used as well.

Lots of variables.

 

[Photon]

It can also change based on what carrier oil is being used.

It can change off of how old the carrier oil is being used as well.

Lots of variables.

Oh my focus is more on his process, not so much the color.

Since tested and untested batches are not mixed, why would you send out untested gear, when tested gear is available?

Just curious here.
Did it run out of stock?
Or did you just decide to send out the untested ones instead?
Completely random?

Are you showing a Jano test for Batch 1, then sending out Batch 2, when Batch 1 is available?

@Primal_Pharma
Can you share why are customers receiving different batches of Tren E, when the tested batch is available and in stock?

Is this the only product that you are doing this on?
Showing a Jano test, then sending a different batch when people purchase despite the tested batch being available?

Please share the process in determining who gets send the tested or untested batch.

 

[readalot]

Of course brother. And just to be clear, by lowest do you mean lightest? And no need to purchase, just send us the shipping details and we’ll get it out!

Lightest color achievable. Could you share with white background?

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Oh my focus is more on his process, not so much the color.



@Primal_Pharma
Can you share why are customers receiving different batches of Tren E, when the tested batch is available and in stock?

Is this the only product that you are doing this on?
Showing a Jano test, then sending a different batch when people purchase despite the tested batch being available?

Please share the process in determining who gets send the tested or untested batch.

The Tren E in question is from the same source, same raws, same process. The only “difference” is that it was brewed in separate runs. That doesn’t make one “tested” and the other “untested” in the way you’re implying.

We don’t have some secret sorting hat that decides who gets what. When stock from one run sells out, the next run goes out.

 

[readalot]

These are two separate issues. Photon is vetting Pharma's sourcing procedure.

I am trying to get lightest color tren ace for testing project.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Lightest color achievable. Could you share with white background?

Of course. Give us a bit of time to get on this. But we’ll definitely grab our lightest ones, put it on a white background and have the group pick the one that goes out

 

[readalot]

Of course. Give us a bit of time to get on this. But we’ll definitely grab our lightest ones, put it on a white background and have the group pick the one that goes out

Thank you very much. We will need at least 3 vials. I would prefer we (group) pays for them. I will defer to group's decision.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Thank you very much. We will need at least 3 vials. I would prefer we (group) pays for them. I will defer to group's decision.

Brother, not a big deal at all. We respect the hell out of yall for this and wanting to cover it. But seriously not a big deal whatsoever!

 

[readalot]

Is this the only product that you are doing this on?
Showing a Jano test, then sending a different batch when people purchase despite the tested batch being available?

My read is that not every batch is tested before shipping starts. That is not me saying each batch is not tested. Must be a lag.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Brother, not a big deal at all. We respect the hell out of yall for this and wanting to cover it. But seriously not a big deal whatsoever!

Also going to send in this Tren Ace raw for testing to give us more insight

 

[Photon]

The Tren E in question is from the same source, same raws, same process. The only “difference” is that it was brewed in separate runs. That doesn’t make one “tested” and the other “untested” in the way you’re implying.

We don’t have some secret sorting hat that decides who gets what. When stock from one run sells out, the next run goes out. If we had only shipped from that one specific tested batch, we’d have been sold out in a couple days and you’d be here accusing us of “running out conveniently.”

I am not questioning your sources, raws or brewing process.

I am simply asking, how do you decide which batch gets sent out?
You have batch 1 sent to Jano and tested.
You do not mix untested with tested batches, so you know clearly which is tested or not.

When people order, you send them untested batch 2.
Who gets batch 1? Who gets batch 2?
Completely random?
I assume at this point, you are doing this for all products, not just Tren.

A simple reply like it's random, is entirely fine with me.

 

[readalot]

Also going to send in this Tren Ace raw for testing to give us more insight

Well then we should coordinate that as well. We will need HPLC (high resolution and specific reporting) plus GCMS. The group can purchase that as well. Can you share reference photo of the raw on white background?

This has to be done methodically.

I appreciate your willingness to participate in this study. Thank you.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

I am not questioning your sources, raws or brewing process.

I am simply asking, how do you decide which batch gets sent out?
You have batch 1 sent to Jano and tested.
You do not mix untested with tested batches, so you know clearly which is tested or not.

When people order, you send them untested batch 2.
Who gets batch 1? Who gets batch 2?
Completely random?
I assume at this point, you are doing this for all products, not just Tren.

A simple reply like it's random, is entirely fine with me.

Got you brother. So we ship orders from whatever run is currently in rotation at the time. So no special selection process.

The Tren E batch that was sent to Jano was simply one of the runs we had in stock when testing was done. Once that run sold through, the next run went out. That’s the same approach we use for all products. Test, Mast, Tren, etc.

The purpose of posting a Jano test isn’t to only ship those exact vials, but to verify the process and ensure consistency across batches. If we waited to test and post every single run before shipping, turnaround times would slow down dramatically.