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How about thick blood on EQ?
Staying hydrated, regular cardio, 3–4g of fish oil, and even something like Pentoxifylline can help keep things smooth. But EQ is funny like that - some dudes can run 1g and their hematocrit stays chill, while others spike to 56% on just 500mg. Keep the water flowing, hit your cardio, and you’re good. And hey, unlike Primo, EQ doesn’t tax your hairline or your wallet - a true blue-collar workhorse.
 
Why bother with Primo when you’ve got EQ? Sure, EQ isn’t the flashy type - no charisma, no fan club of girls losing their minds over it, but it’s a workhorse. It keeps E2 in check, doesn’t wreck your lipids like a psycho, and costs half the price. Mast, on the other hand, is like EQ’s cooler cousin - smooth, lean, and knows how to make you look shredded in any lighting. Meanwhile, Primo is that overhyped Hollywood pretty boy everyone talks about, but half the time you’re paying just for the name. I’ll take EQ and Mast, the blue-collar duo, over pretty-boy Primo any day.
But my favorite fitness influencer said if I don’t run primo I’m a broke loser ):
 
But my favorite fitness influencer said if I don’t run primo I’m a broke loser ):
My bad, man, maybe your influencer is right, but with Primo prices hitting $130–180 per vial, you’ll go broke faster than you’ll get shredded. And the kicker? I’ve seen tests (not on Meso, but over on SST) showing some Primo being spiked with EQ. That’s like paying for Wagyu steak and getting a well-done supermarket burger.
 
Staying hydrated, regular cardio, 3–4g of fish oil, and even something like Pentoxifylline can help keep things smooth. But EQ is funny like that - some dudes can run 1g and their hematocrit stays chill, while others spike to 56% on just 500mg. Keep the water flowing, hit your cardio, and you’re good. And hey, unlike Primo, EQ doesn’t tax your hairline or your wallet - a true blue-collar workhorse.

How did pento work out for you?
 
some dudes can run 1g and their hematocrit stays chill, while others spike to 56% on just 500mg
Its called hereditary hemochromatosis and it's a bitch in the presence of a shit load of androgens. Homozygous, heterozygous, WGAF?

Hct of 56? No problem. All good, full send. Whole blood viscosity is pussy talk.

Plasma viscosity? F that. You're good.

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How did pento work out for you?
Not sure yet, I only added it around week 8 of my cycle, so the last few weeks I was running 400mg per day split into 2 doses. Subjectively, I felt a bit of relief, but I had also done a blood donation before that, which dropped my hematocrit from 56% to 52%. Plus, I was doing a lot of cardio and drinking about 5 liters of water a day, so that could have helped as well. I haven’t done new labs yet, but I’m planning to add it from the start of my next cycle in September. I remember you mentioned it didn’t really show much impact on your bloodwork, but as I understand, Pentoxifylline’s main job is improving blood flow and reducing blood viscosity by increasing red blood cell flexibility, not necessarily lowering hematocrit directly.
 
Strongly advise ya’ll drinking 1 gallon of water before fasting bloods. You may be surprised at your HCT levels. The biggest challenge is logistics (finding a place to piss).
 
Todd Lee strikes again. Nothing like diluting the issue before you go in for blood work.
If you don’t spend most of your life in the severely dehydrated state that you find yourself in upon waking for fasted bloodwork, why would we want to measure in that state? Lots of people present to hospital with acute renal failure that is relieved by hydration. They don’t need dialysis. They need fluids / hydration. I understand that Todd is not well liked / respected, but personally if I’m spending the time and money on all this bloodwork I want to have an accurate reading of how my body sits most of the time. Not in a dehydrated state.
 
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If you don’t spend most of your life in the severely dehydrated state that you find yourself in upon waking for fasted bloodwork, why would we want to measure in that state?
Severely dehydrated? Lol.

Do you spend most of your life in the plasma state achieved immediately after shotgunning a gal of water? Do you need to piss like a racehorse all day long?


Huge rationalization.
 
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My bad, man, maybe your influencer is right, but with Primo prices hitting $130–180 per vial, you’ll go broke faster than you’ll get shredded. And the kicker? I’ve seen tests (not on Meso, but over on SST) showing some Primo being spiked with EQ. That’s like paying for Wagyu steak and getting a well-done supermarket burger.
Yeah dude it’s actually crazy , I’m so sick of primo elitists acting like if you run mast or eq you’re some sort of peasant. Masteron will always be my favorite, I don’t get the same mental boost that I get from mast with primo.
 
Severely dehydrated? Lol.

Do you spend most of your life in the plasma state from shotgunning a gal of water. Do you need to piss like a racehorse all day long?
I do. I drink at least 2 gallons per day. I never don’t have water with me. I urinate very frequently. Do you get your lipids drawn after an all you can eat buffet?
 
Just to get things straight…
If someone were to take 10 iu of the orange top growth and then get a GH panel, when would be the best timing to do the draw in relation to when you take the growth?
Second, would it be better to run the GH for a period of time prior to the blood draw or take the draw immediately following the first injection?
 
Yeah dude it’s actually crazy , I’m so sick of primo elitists acting like if you run mast or eq you’re some sort of peasant. Masteron will always be my favorite, I don’t get the same mental boost that I get from mast with primo.
Yeah, I think this is just primos “time in the sun”…. Just a few years ago it was tren mania. Before that it was SARMS. Before that it was everyone thinking a var only cycle would do great things. Then there was that Zyzz phase…

Seems like it’s all about primo/mast right now, but we are also at the dawn of the peptide craze…. 5 years from now someone will “discover” the deca/dbol cycle again and call it the ultimate bulking stack, lol.
 
Yeah, I think this is just primos “time in the sun”…. Just a few years ago it was tren mania. Before that it was SARMS. Before that it was everyone thinking a var only cycle would do great things. Then there was that Zyzz phase…

Seems like it’s all about primo/mast right now, but we are also at the dawn of the peptide craze…. 5 years from now someone will “discover” the deca/dbol cycle again and call it the ultimate bulking stack, lol.
Don't forget the dhb phase
 
Just to get things straight…
If someone were to take 10 iu of the orange top growth and then get a GH panel, when would be the best timing to do the draw in relation to when you take the growth?
Second, would it be better to run the GH for a period of time prior to the blood draw or take the draw immediately following the first injection?
I'd run it for a week or do. You wanna do it three hrs after the pin and I would tell you to do that gh shot i.m , IV seen people getting better results and number going i.m then sub q
 
I'd run it for a week or do. You wanna do it three hrs after the pin and I would tell you to do that gh shot i.m , IV seen people getting better results and number going i.m then sub q
I would like to hear opinion on taking 10-12 iu 3 hours prior to the draw for serum GH and IGF-1. Then run 2-3 iu daily for a month and do another GH panel and see what changes.
 
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