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[Bandern]

Is there ever a case where you would choose tbol over Anavar

If I stopped lifting and wanted to get really good at water polio or somethin

 

[AllGoodThings]

Thank you for the input, im thinking it will be useful to pair with tren in an offseason cycle for that endurance aspect. Do you find that it provides endurance that you don’t get from Anavar?

I personally don't notice an endurance boost with Anavar, even at 100mg/day, so yes

 

[Earthworm Jim]

That’s sick write my username with the alcohol pad

I thought it was coming off the blue plastic of my luer lock needles, but now I realize I've probably been injecting this stuff. From now on I'll just use a separate alcohol wipe for the needle

 

[Primal_Pharma]

I thought it was coming off the blue plastic of my luer lock needles, but now I realize I've probably been injecting this stuff. From now on I'll just use a separate alcohol wipe for the needle

Try different swabs? We use ‘Members Mark’ alcohol swabs and never had an issue. But if this continues, we will definitely look into getting these tops changed!

 

[BigDadd7]

I’m assuming retatrutide needs to be refrigerated after reconstitution.

Yes

 

[5thGen]

I don’t even want to inject this dirty shit to get blood work

Ok Tracy

 

[BigDadd7]

I thought it was coming off the blue plastic of my luer lock needles, but now I realize I've probably been injecting this stuff. From now on I'll just use a separate alcohol wipe for the needle

Wait... why are you wiping a needle that comes presterilized? You're most likely leaving it less sterile than it came out of the wrapper. Possibly even leaving microfiber on the tip and injecting them. Stop doing that.

 

[AllGoodThings]

Try different swabs? We use ‘Members Mark’ alcohol swabs and never had an issue. But if this continues, we will definitely look into getting these tops changed!

Members Mark alcohol swabs are great. $6.12 for 800 of them. I stocked up, as I do with most things. Last time people went nutso (covid), alcohol/alcohol based cleaners were amongst the items that disappeared from shelves.

I'd be fine with plain silver aluminum seals. Might be a good opportunity to go with a slightly higher quality seal. During my freezer prep work, where I remove the plastic caps from vials and seal them with adhesive vial seals, my Primal vials were the most difficult to deal with due to how much the aluminum deformed from removing the caps. Definitely a very thin and/or soft aluminum. Not a big deal at all, just some feedback.

Blue circled vials are Primal, and as you can see, the tops were not flat when removing the caps. The red circled vials were a different vendor, and the aluminum kept its shape better and allowed for a flat surface and good adhesive seal. I realize this specific example will matter to almost no one, it's just an example of how soft the aluminum is, which may also not matter at all to anyone.

 

[sionnach]

I thought it was coming off the blue plastic of my luer lock needles, but now I realize I've probably been injecting this stuff. From now on I'll just use a separate alcohol wipe for the needle

How would you be injecting it?

 

[Tdeck81]

I thought it was coming off the blue plastic of my luer lock needles, but now I realize I've probably been injecting this stuff. From now on I'll just use a separate alcohol wipe for the needle

I stopped pressing so hard on the rim and focused more on the stopper. I no longer have visible transference on the alcohol wipe but I’m sure it’s still being smeared to some degree.
These are the wipes I use

 

[BigDadd7]

Members Mark alcohol swabs are great. $6.12 for 800 of them. I stocked up, as I do with most things. Last time people went nutso (covid), alcohol/alcohol based cleaners were amongst the items that disappeared from shelves.

I'd be fine with plain silver aluminum seals. Might be a good opportunity to go with a slightly higher quality seal. During my freezer prep work, where I remove the plastic caps from vials and seal them with adhesive vial seals, my Primal vials were the most difficult to deal with due to how much the aluminum deformed from removing the caps. Definitely a very thin and/or soft aluminum. Not a big deal at all, just some feedback.

Blue circled vials are Primal, and as you can see, the tops were not flat when removing the caps. The red circled vials were a different vendor, and the aluminum kept its shape better and allowed for a flat surface and good adhesive seal. I realize this specific example will matter to almost no one, it's just an example of how soft the aluminum is, which may also not matter at all to anyone.
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What's the advantage of replacing them?

 

[Bandern]

I thought it was coming off the blue plastic of my luer lock needles, but now I realize I've probably been injecting this stuff. From now on I'll just use a separate alcohol wipe for the needle

I don’t like colored caps for this reason. Primal’s aren’t that bad, I don’t find the color coming off on the alcohol pad unless cap gets a vigorous rubbing. I’ve had colored caps from other vendors where the color comes off the moment it comes in contact with the alcohol

 

[AllGoodThings]

What's the advantage of replacing them?

There's a possibility that stoppers can shrink a little when frozen, and if the diameter reduced enough, it could break the seal the rubber creates. Depending on the tolerances of the aluminum, and the quality of the crimp, you could possibly maintain the integrity of the vial with an adhesive seal, where a plastic cap would not, as the adhesive aluminum vial seals create an air tight connection between aluminum cap and the rubber stopper.

Something a bit ironic is that while inferior when it comes to chemical solvent resistance/tolerance, silicon stoppers have one advantage over other materials in that they handle a wider temperature range. I still don't like them at all, but for this reason anything I have with silicon stoppers is first on the list to get frozen

 

[newguy2]

I know feels isn't extremely scientific, but other than this one very minor "study", the nand/joint pain thing is largely anecdotal anyway, so fuck it. I'm down to ~7/day and the creaks and grinds haven't returned.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339714537_Nandrolone_decanoate_relieves_joint_pain_in_hypogonadal_men_a_novel_prospective_pilot_study_and_review_of_the_literature

7mg of NPP a day?

 

[phenominal34]

Wait... why are you wiping a needle that comes presterilized? You're most likely leaving it less sterile than it came out of the wrapper. Possibly even leaving microfiber on the tip and injecting them. Stop doing that.

Exactly … I was like huh ?? Wtf

 

[sionnach]

7mg of NPP a day?

Yep, roughly 50mg/week seems crazy low, I know. It's just an experiment, I dunno if there's anything to it. I'll let you know if my normal joint pain and creakiness returns.

 

[newguy2]

Yep, roughly 50mg/week seems crazy low, I know. It's just an experiment, I dunno if there's anything to it. I'll let you know if my normal joint pain and creakiness returns.

I might switch to NPP for a bit. Have one open. EOD should be fine don't you think? I hate daily pinning.

 

[BigDadd7]

There's a possibility that stoppers can shrink a little when frozen, and if the diameter reduced enough, it could break the seal the rubber creates. Depending on the tolerances of the aluminum, and the quality of the crimp, you could possibly maintain the integrity of the vial with an adhesive seal, where a plastic cap would not, as the adhesive aluminum vial seals create an air tight connection between aluminum cap and the rubber stopper.

Something a bit ironic is that while inferior when it comes to chemical solvent resistance/tolerance, silicon stoppers have one advantage over other materials in that they handle a wider temperature range. I still don't like them at all, but for this reason anything I have with silicon stoppers is first on the list to get frozen

That's helpful info. Thanks.

 

[RockyP]

I might switch to NPP for a bit. Have one open. EOD should be fine don't you think? I hate daily pinning.

EOD for NPP is perfectly fine.

 

[zzzz]

@Primal_Pharma

What happened to the light colored Tren A aka "harm reduction" project? Was it put aside? Was excited for it!