Pls help explain swelling/water retention on PrimoE, TestC, Var, Deca & HGH

[Morefyah]

I am on TRT prescription for TestE, HCG and Anastrozole. HCG is added as we are preparing for another baby in a few months time. Given that It takes about 90 days for sperm to mature fully and need testosterone locally in testes for proper sperm growth, HCG is added to get testes to produce test locally. TRT doses of test does not make me fertile based on previous tests.
I am taking 0.5mg of Anastrozole EOD and along with DIM and I3C. By the way, when I was on my TRT protocol of 100mg/wk teste and 500iu HCG EOD, estrogen was kept in control with just DIM and I3C with any AI.
Yes, I will not be adding anything else perhaps will drop Deca.
BTW, Collagen Peptide is type I and III, believe from Cattles. It supposed to help with structures supporting joints.

Lol, right on man. I am well aware of everything you metioned and what it’s used for. I was just giving a hard time about all the supplements. Now That you went Into so much detail I’m intrigued but you saying your prepping for a baby in a few months. Does your doctor or wife know your about to start a blast before attempting to have a baby.’I know you said you were going to drop the Deca but what compelled you to use it in the first place “joints I know” when your trying to get your wife prego. Iya definitely not impossible to impregnate while on cycle. But joint you think it might be a better idea to wait until the jobs done? Either way I wish you luck and hope your successful.

 

[Oldschool]

[QUOTE="Morefyah, post: 2198119, member: But joint you think it might be a better idea to wait until the jobs done? Either way I wish you luck and hope your successful. [/QUOTE]
Puff Puff Pass

 

[TRT@40]

I was gonna be sarcastic and sugest you didn’t have enough compounds, but your doses don’t exactly look reckless.

Are you confident with you deca supplier that is really deca and not just more Test being to your exciting Test E?

Same question regarding your Primo?

I’m all for preventative measures, but I have to say, those are just way too many sups to be taking all at once. You can and probably should cycle sups as well.

Swolen feet may be a sign of edema, where one of you orgerns are being taxed and thereby the lymphatic system cannot effective flush your body clean and toxins tend to pool in area such as feet.

That’s what concerned me that you may be over stressing your liver, sups aside, even wet anabolics stress the liver indirectly.

You should not delay getting some bloods drawn.

Good luck man, and let us know what you discover.

Thanks for your reply and concerns brother, @Inquiring Mind.

I am confident with the deca supplier as he has been thoroughly vetted here by our members and product codes check out to be legit.
I am not so sure about PrimoE which has not been tested by anyone. It is 200mg/ml and has no pip whatsoever perhaps because i mix it in the same syringe with EO based TestC and Deca or perhaps it is bunk. I think i need to send it out for testing since cycle is planned for 20 weeks at least.

 

[TRT@40]

Where is your AI..... You probably have too high of estrogen and your diet might be affecting you as well.
I'd say that might be a factor.

I am taking 0.5mg of RX anastrozole eod along with DIM+I3C. I am going for blood work in the morning. I will know in a week where estradiol level is.

 

[Demondosage]

It's the onset side of HGH and prob the blood pressure.

Check your fasting glucose levels also with a meter and make sure you're in normal range (80-100)

 

[TRT@40]

From whAt it looks like to me your estro is high from test/Deca. And maybe the Primo if it’s fake. Real Primo never made me hold water. Any chance you AI is underdosed or fake? In the last few days was anyone of the compounds you taking added or did you start all at same time.
I’m just trying to see what can be the problem.

Hi @nattydread , I am not so sure about primo but it is definitely not something that would increase strength as strength has not increased any significant amount.
My anastrozole is prescription so it is likely dosed properly.
I started all the compounds at the same time but slowly ramped up the primo and test dose to 650mg/wk and 400mg/wk, respectively.
The only new supplement I added is milk thistle for liver support. I had been on Inositol+Choline from earlier. BTW, Dr. Rand McClain, TRT specialist, who also works with bodybuilders recommends this Inositol+Choline for liver support. I think I have gone overboard with the liver support. I will stop milk thistle, Inositol+Choline for a while to isolate if they are the problem.

 

[TRT@40]

Lol, right on man. I am well aware of everything you metioned and what it’s used for. I was just giving a hard time about all the supplements. Now That you went Into so much detail I’m intrigued but you saying your prepping for a baby in a few months. Does your doctor or wife know your about to start a blast before attempting to have a baby.’I know you said you were going to drop the Deca but what compelled you to use it in the first place “joints I know” when your trying to get your wife prego. Iya definitely not impossible to impregnate while on cycle. But joint you think it might be a better idea to wait until the jobs done? Either way I wish you luck and hope your successful.

thank you brother @Morefyah for making it blatantly clear- no more deca for a while. I will have to either live with joint issues if HGH has not brought any improvements or find a natural alternative.

 

[TRT@40]

It's the onset side of HGH and prob the blood pressure.

Check your fasting glucose levels also with a meter and make sure you're in normal range (80-100)

Thanks for pointing that out. I will check it in the morning and report back to you fellas tomorrow

 

[Demondosage]

Definitely do not count out HGH , it's common to retain water on it and it's not a miracle drug. Also, the hyperglycemia from it isn't to be ignored

 

[Morefyah]

thank you brother @Morefyah for making it blatantly clear- no more deca for a while. I will have to either live with joint issues if HGH has not brought any improvements or find a natural alternative.

You might want to look in to CBD cream. It doesn’t really have lubricating properties.
But it really helps with inflammation.

 

[Demondosage]

You might want to look in to CBD cream. It doesn’t really have lubricating properties.
But it really helps with inflammation.

Check out "Muscle salve" by Grind Athletics" , it's top notch, has CBD oil in it and turmeric. I'm using it right now to recover from a partial tendon tear in my lower tricep region along with a PRP injection. It has helped a lot

 

[Morefyah]

Check out "Muscle salve" by Grind Athletics" , it's top notch, has CBD oil in it and turmeric. I'm using it right now to recover from a partial tendon tear in my lower tricep region along with a PRP injection. It has helped a lot

I live in CO and work in the cannabis industry. I work with a woman that makes and sells her own CBd and it’s mega dosed.
I believe it’s base is avocado and tea tree oil.
It’s greasy and smells awesome. It works wonders on my elbow tendinitis and knees.
It’s also works great on my sore delts.

 

[Test_Subject]

Without deca, my elbow was limiting me to anything useful in the gym.

Masking the pain of a real injury so you can continue to do what injured you in the first place is a good way to fuck yourself up permanently.

 

[picholas]

@TRT@40

I experienced a personal loss 2 weeks ago, got you confused with someone else, and totally took my anger/frustration out on you. My apologies.

But my last sentence regarding your hCG usage stands, cut back on it and see if your bloating goes down.

 

[TRT@40]

Definitely do not count out HGH , it's common to retain water on it and it's not a miracle drug. Also, the hyperglycemia from it isn't to be ignored

Checked fasted (8hours) glucose level before taking HGH and it came in at 99. Since it is almost at the high end of the range, is there a way to mitigate this? Is 8hours fast long enough? I am only taking 2.2IU of Pfizer Genotropin in the morning and been taking it for about 5months. Before starting HGH, i remember fasted glucose being around the middle of the normal range.

 

[TRT@40]

@TRT@40

I experienced a personal loss 2 weeks ago, got you confused with someone else, and totally took my anger/frustration out on you. My apologies.

But my last sentence regarding your hCG usage stands, cut back on it and see if your bloating goes down.

No hard feelings given what you stated above. Sorry to hear about your personal loss and wish you well.
However, initially, i did feel your first post was somewhat uncalled for but then again I know there are all sorts of people with different backgrounds and life struggles in any community. So no worries man especially after you clearing up the confusion.

 

[Apexvallen]

Cut the deca and go from there imo. It'll take ages to clear but you should be making gains without it. Get estro checked although "doc" will be sure to remind everyone that estrogen doesn't cause water retention. (it does).

 

[hghpro]

water retention could definitely be hgh i may have missed but whats your dose.

 

[rpbb]

water retention could definitely be hgh i may have missed but whats your dose.

Fyi, as a source, you're not supposed to leave your thread

Thanks

 

[hghpro]

i am sorry i did not know we were not allowed to contribute i just thought we shouldnt interfere in other sources threads