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[m_ob]

Yeah, 500 Iu a week. Last time I checked HDL and LDL were good, total cholesterol was low though, 91

 

[m_ob]

Another question on appetite, I've got 2 100 ml vials of Agrilab vet grade B complex. A lot of it for only 8 bucks. Each ml contains: 100 mg of B1, 5 mg of B2, 100 mg of niacinamidee, 10 mg B6, and 100 mcg of B12. How much B12 do I need a week?

 

[cvictorg]

Another question on appetite, I've got 2 100 ml vials of Agrilab vet grade B complex. A lot of it for only 8 bucks. Each ml contains: 100 mg of B1, 5 mg of B2, 100 mg of niacinamidee, 10 mg B6, and 100 mcg of B12. How much B12 do I need a week?

have you had your b-12 levels tested recently??

 

[m_ob]

It's been a few years, but trying to get my doc to test things other than sex and thyroid hormones is like pulling teeth.

 

[hardasnails1973]

Depends on what type.of b12 because some people are not able to.convert to.active.form . People also may not convert folic acid to 5 methyl folate due to.enzymatic defect or lack of proper b12. Total cholesterol < 150 can cause increase mortality, aggression ,low hormones levels. Proper bile flow is needed to up fats other words can cause low levels of cholesterol. Choleostasis should also.be investigated.

 

[bax]

... Ya or you could just listen to rationality and believe the ridiculous training sessions u put yourself thru did this. Or you know, listen to han and go on a wild goose chase.

 

[hardasnails1973]

B12 in serum is useless. Only would show a deficiency in blood not a functional deficiency. Urine methymalonic acid would be a better assessment or homocysteine.level which are probably <5.5 due.to.low cholesterol ..

 

[hardasnails1973]

What ever the cause most likely over training which I told him a few years ago over a 3 hour phone call. Damage is done need to.pick.up.the pieces. Personally due to his past history he may be one.of the cases where he.may need hrt for.life. He can go.on and explain it.

 

[m_ob]

Dammit HAN, do you understand that was three fucking years ago!? I was borderline anorexic but got over that and gained over 40 lbs of muscle, I THEN worked myself into the state I'm in now. TRT for life is fine by me as long as I'm healthy. Now stop fucking commenting

 

[m_ob]

Calm down bax. I'm taking all the advice I've been given, except for HANs senseless babble. I'm going on a week and a half without lifting now so we'll see how this goes. I got recent labs in the mail today though: TSH: 1.008 Sodium 143 (136-145). Potassium 4.1 (3.5-5.1). Chloride 105. (98-107). Co2- 33 ( 23-29). HIGH. Creatine: 1.04. (.6-1.3). BUN 17. (7-18). Glucose 86. (70-100). Calcium 9.6 8.5-10.5

 

[m_ob]

Oh and oddly enough, to accompany that high co2, HGB 13.3. (13.5-17.5). HCT 38.3. (41-53)

 

[m_ob]

Anything on the high co2 and anemia? Should I look into getting an iron and b-12 checked? That would explain the light-headedness and headaches

 

[m_ob]

No?

 

[m_ob]

So this is of minimal significance I take it

 

[bax]

mob I think we have all given you our best and thoughtful advice(well besides the resident idiot lol) and the general consensus is you beat the shit out of yourself for a long time and need to rest. In fact it wouldnt be surprising if your overtraining is causing these numbers you keep posting as well. If after you have given your mind and body a chance to adequately recover and these things are still out of whack then sure investigate further. But all you are doing right now is continuing to try and place the blame anywhere other than your obsession-excessive working out. Thats just how it seems and my fear is that some idiot like HANS will prey on this weakness and get you going on a wild goose chase where 6 months from now your looking for a rare parasite in your feces..(joking, but only sort of). Just try to relax and give it time.

 

[coolcat20]

HAN you don't have parasites....you are a parasite.

 

[cvictorg]

Calm down bax. I'm taking all the advice I've been given, except for HANs senseless babble. I'm going on a week and a half without lifting now so we'll see how this goes. I got recent labs in the mail today though: TSH: 1.008 Sodium 143 (136-145). Potassium 4.1 (3.5-5.1). Chloride 105. (98-107). Co2- 33 ( 23-29). HIGH. Creatine: 1.04. (.6-1.3). BUN 17. (7-18). Glucose 86. (70-100). Calcium 9.6 8.5-10.5

There’s probably nothing wrong when the carbon dioxide level is just a point or two outside of the normal range. That’s particularly true if your test turned up abnormal on otherwise routine blood work.

This raises an interesting question: What defines an abnormal result on a lab test? Some tests are abnormal because there is a clear link between that result and a known health condition. For example, high levels of lead in the bloodstream are known to produce lead poisoning.

But for other tests the normal range is determined statistically by performing the test in a large population. The average value, plus a certain buffer zone, defines what is normal. For those trained in statistics, this buffer is typically two standard deviations on either side of the mean.

For example, the normal range for carbon dioxide is calculated by looking at average levels in a large group of otherwise healthy people. The bottom line: “Abnormal” means you are not in the average range. But it doesn’t always mean there is problem. Some healthy people will simply have carbon dioxide levels that are slightly higher or lower than average.

Another quirky statistical fact is that a typical person is likely to have one or more “abnormal” values when they have a large number of blood tests. Simply put, it is hard to be average on every test. It may be alarming to see an “abnormal” label on one of your test results. But you can rest assured that this may simply be — well, normal.

 

[m_ob]

There’s probably nothing wrong when the carbon dioxide level is just a point or two outside of the normal range. That’s particularly true if your test turned up abnormal on otherwise routine blood work.

This raises an interesting question: What defines an abnormal result on a lab test? Some tests are abnormal because there is a clear link between that result and a known health condition. For example, high levels of lead in the bloodstream are known to produce lead poisoning.

But for other tests the normal range is determined statistically by performing the test in a large population. The average value, plus a certain buffer zone, defines what is normal. For those trained in statistics, this buffer is typically two standard deviations on either side of the mean.

For example, the normal range for carbon dioxide is calculated by looking at average levels in a large group of otherwise healthy people. The bottom line: “Abnormal” means you are not in the average range. But it doesn’t always mean there is problem. Some healthy people will simply have carbon dioxide levels that are slightly higher or lower than average.

Another quirky statistical fact is that a typical person is likely to have one or more “abnormal” values when they have a large number of blood tests. Simply put, it is hard to be average on every test. It may be alarming to see an “abnormal” label on one of your test results. But you can rest assured that this may simply be — well, normal.

Accompanied by light-headedness and headaches? That and why would I be slightly anemic on TRT. Mostly everyone on injections has to worry about high rbcs

 

[hardasnails1973]

Wild goose chases are.medically validate with clinical testing ordered from the MD's. Its kind of.entertaining to.watch guys complain of how they can't gain muscle or.your dick don't work. Think about all the.people who are dying of cancer, have no.dick because they.lost.it.due.to.a roadside bombing or.have blown off.limbs, sitting in.hospice. Until you have face death in.the face one.will.understand how trivial these.issues are..

 

[idmd]

Wild goose chases are.medically validate with clinical testing ordered from the MD's. Its kind of.entertaining to.watch guys complain of how they can't gain muscle or.your dick don't work. Think about all the.people who are dying of cancer, have no.dick because they.lost.it.due.to.a roadside bombing or.have blown off.limbs, sitting in.hospice. Until you have face death in.the face one.will.understand how trivial these.issues are..

Ok so now that the vast majority of people here don't have a terminal disease or know the horrors of war the fact that they feel shitty and can't fuck their wives is trivial? Get a clue man. Yes it's all relative but that doesn't make it any less important to us as individuals!