dinfar1337
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its not that simple and i think you're overcomplicating something simple.
low total test low shbg high free t, you wont
high total test, high shbg, low-normal free t you will in rare cases
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Oxandrolone lowered total testosterone 36% while on TRT?
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low total test low shbg high free t, you wont
high total test, high shbg, low-normal free t you will in rare cases
The only way another exogenous drug could raise FT while someone is taking exogenous Test (assume HPTA shutdown) is by changing its clearance rate via the liver or distribution volume (can't see it doing the latter). You got it.
Caveat is LH agonist, making the testes work again. HCG, etc, etc. 17-aa AAS aren't that.
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dinfar1337
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thats also what im saying.
abusing the dynamic equilibrium with shbg : ft to get temporoary results isnt gonna raise your ft in the long run.
using provirion while you're natty and your shbg is sky high and binding alot of your test up? heck yeah it can raise your ft
dinfar1337
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i was not talking about exogoenous test in this instance, i said in the oxa case its 100% not true but in another case its true.
why would u use proviron while on anything exogenous anyway? it kills your shbg compared to natty
You should have mentioned that. This whole thread is in the context of TRT.
Thank you for clarifying. The original post dealt with exogenous Test case.
For the Proviron/natty case, you have given me something to think about. In that case FT is being generated by testes. Is your argument that Proviron will increase FT production in the testes (generation term)? That's the only way I could see FT being increased once Priviron is added to a natty and endogenous levels reach new steady state ("stable" state).
dinfar1337
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unnatural guys dont really walk around with high shbg at 60+ levels
dinfar1337
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both that, liver cleareance. and shbg can generally just get skewed by alot of different factors, such as age, diseases etc making it not match your body.
so some people will naturally end up with too high shbg levels locking up their potential ft levels as naturals. steroids ofc bypass this
That's where I was before TRT. 58-60. Borderline 2nd hypo but probably not. Really I just wanted the gainz, lol.
Today it is 30 unless I really up things.
dinfar1337
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being hypo actually raises your shbg aswell as a natural
I was just really fit and no carbs. Maybe a little hypo. For natties, most low SHBG people in poor health.
dinfar1337
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I was talking about natties / low SHBG.
We know we are all in poor health now on AAS.
dinfar1337
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this time we are on the same page i was firing a jokeI was talking about natties / low SHBG.
We know we are all in poor health now on AAS.
This is really important concept and still active area of research...free hormone hypothesis (i know you know). Just stating it for readers. The role SHBG plays in getting androgens /hormones to the tissue (transport) is still puzzling. So SHBG may not be simply locking up FT.
Wild stuff. Thanks for mentioning.
Role of sex hormone-binding globulin in the free hormone hypothesis and the relevance of free testosterone in androgen physiology - PMC
According to the free hormone hypothesis, biological activity of a certain hormone is best reflected by free rather than total hormone concentrations. A crucial element in this theory is the presence of binding proteins, which function as ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Lmao, ill admit you made me chuckle with this one. Gonna have to screencap and share with the bros.
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