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[oldage]

I'm assuming there's a comma missing after "no" because this reads like no UGLs make HGH

They dont.

 

[bigstepper]

They dont.

They really think UGLs are cooking up gh in their basements

 

[Dial It In]

They really think UGLs are cooking up gh in their basements

It’s the new gen of users brother. It’s rampant in here anymore.

 

[bigstepper]

It’s the new gen of users brother. It’s rampant in here anymore.

In the basement, next to the Christmas decorations and the uranium enrichment centrifuges.

 

[BatmanVAR]

They dont.

We might be defining UGL different then. I know resellers like Opti don't make HGH but the Chinese labs he buys them from are also referred to as UGLs.

 

[Juicedhead]

I'm assuming there's a comma missing after "no" because this reads like no UGLs make HGH

I think he meant. No underground lab is making gh.

 

[Juicedhead]

We might be defining UGL different then. I know resellers like Opti don't make HGH but the Chinese labs he buys them from are also referred to as UGLs.

I think he meant like no ugl in the us is making gh. Those chinese actually do have labs I consider it more generic then ugl.

 

[riggspersonal]

Asked AI for fun.
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Unlike synthesizing basic anabolic steroids—which can be done with rudimentary chemistry and cheap powders—producing recombinant human growth hormone requires massive, multi-million dollar bioreactors to ferment and genetically modify E. coli bacteria.

Because the barrier to entry for manufacturing is so high, there are no small "boutique" HGH factories in China. It is essentially an oligopoly. Almost all raw and lyophilized UGL HGH globally traces back to just a handful of massive biotech facilities and chemical trading syndicates.

When a UGL claims they have an exclusive, top-secret manufacturer, they are almost certainly buying the exact same generic somatropin as their competitors. They are simply ordering it with a custom-colored flip-top cap (the "blue tops" or "black tops") and applying their own branded label.
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What Actually Differentiates UGLs
Independent Batch Testing (The Biggest Differentiator)
Storage and Climate Control
Operational Security and Shipping

 

[riggspersonal]

Notably, the Optitropin vials and crimps are totally unique from any GH or peptide supplier I've ever bought from.

 

[Elektrobot]

I'm assuming there's a comma missing after "no" because this reads like no UGLs make HGH

I should have considered that UGL can mean different things to different people

For some reason in my mind the Chinese underground producers aren't thought of as UGL's.

I've associated UGL with individual / small group of brewers

And think of chinese underground producers as illicit factories because of the scale.

 

[hcgfiend123456]

Idk about you guys but im just happy to have a source like this haha I remeber the days when there was no testing, and practically no communication, tracking numbers never worked, pretty much just prayed your shit would land. And it always did, Idk im not trying to stir the pot but guys seem to think this is amazon. Sources used to do practically nothing so for me this dude does way more then enough for me to be a customer. Testing or not I tried the product, it worked, good enough for me.

It is practically amazon compared to 10 years ago. We are all super fortunate and lucky to have the amount of testing, transparency and quickness to receive illegal drugs in the mail as we do from some of these vendors.

I haven't used opti in a few years but he was my first purchase on this board and he was as legit as they come.

 

[hcgfiend123456]

I should have considered that UGL can mean different things to different people

For some reason in my mind the Chinese underground producers aren't thought of as UGL's.

I've associated UGL with individual / small group of brewers

And think of chinese underground producers as illicit factories because of the scale.

I think anything not legit pharma would be considered UGL.

 

[BatmanVAR]

I should have considered that UGL can mean different things to different people

For some reason in my mind the Chinese underground producers aren't thought of as UGL's.

I've associated UGL with individual / small group of brewers

And think of chinese underground producers as illicit factories because of the scale.

That's fair. Yeah it's funny how we all use the same terms but have different connotations with them. I've been in this game for 31 years so maybe I'm showing my age with regards to how I use the term UGL and how this changes over the years. To me it's always meant "not pharma" essentially so it would be small brewers, massive non-pharma HGH brewers, and even just sources selling UGL gear.

Hell I'm so old that the first time I bought gear was by mailing an envelope of cash to a guy in San Diego that I found in an AOL chat room and just hoped I got something in return other than an arrest. Shit was wild back then.