Would you say you have seen similar results, thus saving a little cash with the blacktops?
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Jtlittle88
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Yea very similar. I have held less water on blacks then greys
Thanks for that feedback, very appreciated.
Ghoul
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It’s too long to get into, but the TLDR is there are forms of rHGH that can appear correct on HPLC testing but not be bioactive. So two seemingly identical batches by purity, could have a different impact at the same dose that can be felt by intensity of side effects. But those are normal “high growth hormone” side effects, not some random contaminant that just happens to cause exactly the same side effects high growth hormone levels cause. Even naturally excessively high GH from pituitary tumors cause the same effects.
So the irony is “crappy side effect inducing rHGH” is just more potent than the batch that doesn’t. I’m sure IGF-1 would be higher with the side effect inducing vials.
One other thing, since GH has gotten so much cheaper, and many more people are running high doses long term at IGF levels way beyond physiological. consider checking for excessive bone growth, so you can catch acromegaly type changes before they become irreversible.
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Just so you know for yourself. If you want to see past results if you create an account at LabCorp and quest you can sign in and see and download all your previous lab results.
Hand a similar experience with the blue tops recently but not quite as extreme. I’ve used the grey tops for years and never had any crazy sides or issues. Started a kit of blue tops around 20 days ago and have felt like crap ever since. Earlier this week I bumped the dose to from 5ius to 8ius and I was messed up for two days. Sleep was wrecked, huge jump in HR, low level nausea and no appetite.
Safe to say I’ll be switching back to greys lol
malfeasance
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Since you are in prep IGF-1 could very well be lower, just saying.
malfeasance
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There is more to the effectiveness of hgh than IGF-1. Just a reminder.It’s too long to get into, but the TLDR is there are forms of rHGH that can appear correct on HPLC testing but not be bioactive. So two seemingly identical batches by purity, could have a different impact at the same dose that can be felt by intensity of side effects. But those are normal “high growth hormone” side effects, not some random contaminant that just happens to cause exactly the same side effects high growth hormone levels cause. Even naturally excessively high GH from pituitary tumors cause the same effects.
So the irony is “crappy side effect inducing rHGH” is just more potent than the batch that doesn’t. I’m sure IGF-1 would be higher with the side effect inducing vials.
One other thing, since GH has gotten so much cheaper, and many more people are running high doses long term at IGF levels way beyond physiological. consider checking for excessive bone growth, so you can catch acromegaly type changes before they become irreversible.
We discussed it here:
I am a low responder compared to most here, and yet even low levels of growth hormone (like 3 iu) make a difference in my physique v. no hgh. Of course, that could be merely because my natty IGF-1 is so extremely low. I don't know. I am just saying that a super high IGF-1 score is not needed for some beneficial effects from injecting hgh.
RockyP
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I read something on Reddit of all places a long time ago from a dude who was a self described GH expert. Long term use at high dosages. One thing he stressed was that when changing brands, ALWAYS drop your dose a bit. Me personally, if I switch I drop the dose 50%. No harm in doing so. I slowly escalate back to my usual dosage over a week or 2. Never had any of these issues. I also check blood sugar and blood pressure when starting a new brand / new kit (unless it’s pharma). Prob overkill but that’s what I do.
thehogsters
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I been on the Blue Tops since August, previously on Gold Tops and fell just fine.
Jamzbeast
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Where into Saturday, still no stock on oils..
No shit? Hear me out here but there is a strong possibility that maybe since I made my post on Wednesday that Opti stated oils would drop on Monday, and the fact that Monday hasn’t rolled around yet, is why you are not seeing oils on Saturday. Just a thought.
Jamzbeast
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Lol my bad! Thought it was for Monday of this week, my dates are all fucked up smh
SwolieGuacamole
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Tren short term memory loss >
Ghoul
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Jamzbeast
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Lol
Jamzbeast
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Never done tren before, maybe I should stay away from it! Lmfao
Oldhand
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You gotta make up your own mind, but tren does out perform everything else.
Since it is used for cattle, I don’t see this compound ever drying up either. You’d think it will always be available and reasonably priced too.
RockyP
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I’ll take the Tren. Give the cows the Covid boosters.
Oldhand
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To think there are people out there who provoke a bull that’s running tren….. that’s psychotic!I’ll take the Tren. Give the cows the Covid boosters.
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