I misunderstood you then, I thought he didn't reply. Man that's really shitty. Gives me pause about future orders
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I was under the impression domestic mail required a search warrant for inspection/seizure and that the 4th amendment applies.
Nixonnow99
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If its leaking an unknown substance they have to remove and inspect. Requiring them to open the parcel.
Ghoul
Member
Little known fact, only First Class mail is protected by the 4th Amendment.
All other types, including Priority Mail can be opened for inspection for any reason without a warrant.
Even in the case of First class mail though, if it's leaking it can be opened to determine if it's hazardous.
As far as I can tell, more people have been busted by the police for steroids because of a domestic package leaking oil than for any other reason.
So much for "safer than International" .
RockyP
Member
This is why even one parcel with shitty packing should be a no-go forever. Not a dig at anyone in particular but that is inexcusable.
AllGoodThings
Member
I think most of this could be remedied by proper packing protocols. The shrink wrap plastic used to package vials doesn't work well because if the vials break, the glass shards will quickly slice through the plastic, allowing oil to leak out and eventually be visible on the outside of the packaging, leading to package searches. If there was a second layer of fully sealed, waterproof packaging that's protected from any potential broken glass, and is a sufficiently robust material, most of the shipping issues could be resolved.
It may not necessarily be from the shippers packing. It could have been damaged in shipping is the more likely reason since this is a first. It is also likely ops address drew attention but maybe not since he said he received another order. Anywho, we see this from time to time and although it should put the customer and Opti on a bit of high alert I’ve personally never seen anything become of it other than the receiver receiving a knock from the postal inspector, in which case deny deny deny.
Ghoul
Member
Your post is generally accurate, however, there’s an important detail that you forgot to mention.
Your package (and only yours) experienced this issue, no other packages were affected. If any long-standing member or veteran wishes to confirm, I could provide evidence. Of course, any sensitive information would be removed, but it would clearly show that no other packages have had issues.
I am quite certain that the concern arises from your address having been flagged. Regarding the assumption that the bacteriostatic water may have opened, possible, highly unlikely. You have not received a package from me so you are unfamiliar with my packaging, so that is pure speculation. While plastic bottles can rupture, your order and the packaging procedure allowed ample space, which would make such an event unlikely.
I would also like to clarify that my reship policy applies strictly to packages that are lost or never delivered. This situation does not fall under that policy, as the issue is related to your flagged address. Several members can vouch for me, if a package genuinely fails to arrive, I have always resent the complete order and ensured the customer is taken care of.
I believe it’s generally understood why shipments are not sent via FedEx or UPS and are handled through USPS. However, in your case, the slight detail you forgot to mention is that the two additional packages you received were sent via UPS, not USPS. I do not use privately owned couriers. Given these circumstances, I would prefer to forgo the sale or reach an agreement on a partial refund, as I will not be shipping to you again.
Members are welcome to review both perspectives and form their own opinion. If any members could kindly share a brief post, perhaps a quick confirmation or note about any issues experienced since September 1st, when this order was placed, it would be greatly appreciated.
Best regards,
Opti
RockyP
Member
I believe Chris bumstead’s sister / Ian valliere’s wife got busted via controller delivery of a parcel from Canada.
Ghoul
Member
Addresses don't get burned. We know that from tons of experience. Domestic packs don't get pulled based on the recipients address either. That would require a search warrant for a mail intercept. And yes, I said they can be opened for any reason to be inspected, but that has to be for a reason, including random checks, not going after a particular individual's mail. A targeted interception requires a court to approve.
Something was wrong with the package. Probably leaking. Reta's not illegal in any case, and the notice of seizure for non mailabilty goes to the sender not the recipient, which is likely a fake address.
He's lucky this wasn't AAS.
Something was wrong with the package. Probably leaking. Reta's not illegal in any case, and the notice of seizure for non mailabilty goes to the sender not the recipient, which is likely a fake address.
He's lucky this wasn't AAS.
Ghoul
Member
FedEx opened it for a repack (suggesting a leak or other damage), saw the (labeled) AAS, called US customs.
Customs wasn't interested in such a small quantity. That's love letter sending stuff for them. They notified the local yokel Florida Sheriff who deployed a good old boy small town SWAT team after a controlled delivery.
Ultimately the case, like almost every steroid possession case, was disposed of via a slap on the wrist (often drug counseling, brief period of probation, then a dismissal without conviction) and every record of it has been expunged from the system. (the documents had been online for a while).
But that's how those who get busted often find themselves on the receiving end of an unpleasant experience. Postal Inspector called in to deal with a leaking package, knowing the feds aren't interested, will pass it along to the local cops, who sometimes get very excited over their first steroid case. After all the hard work, time, and expense results in.... nothing, my guess is that's the last time they bother doing that.
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My order arrived in perfect condition even had bac water and mines was unopened and I know my mailman is a dickface as I always we him on my ring when the mail arrives he tosses the packs on the floor like frisbees and my Pack was still good and intact
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They absolutely get burned. I’m on a private board with a guy who burned his. Ordering weed got his burned but even now, a year or so later he gets a lot of packages intercepted.
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is opti US website down? mine is just showing the EU website and when I click the us site it says "page not found" I've ordered pretty recently and everything was fine so it may have been this way and I didn't notice? anyone seeing the same thing?
What do people do
And obviously, the technology is already being used to change this on a moment's notice.
I doubt this.
And obviously, the technology is already being used to change this on a moment's notice.
bigdaddyandfriends
Member
Have placed three orders now with Opti, all arrived perfect and very well packed. If something was leaking it got abused/crushed in transit.
My last purchased kit of gold tops did have an issue with mixing cloudy-white... first two were fine. Opti did reply and I sent the requested info, waiting on resolution. It’s one kit so not the end of the world either way, I’d still order again from this source. And one of the few I didn’t think twice about ordering primo/mast from this year, when it was available.
Not sure about addresses getting burned, but if one is there is likely an ongoing investigation by some entity. I’ve gotten a few love letters from CBP over the years, but never had any issue with domestic USPS shipments.
My last purchased kit of gold tops did have an issue with mixing cloudy-white... first two were fine. Opti did reply and I sent the requested info, waiting on resolution. It’s one kit so not the end of the world either way, I’d still order again from this source. And one of the few I didn’t think twice about ordering primo/mast from this year, when it was available.
Not sure about addresses getting burned, but if one is there is likely an ongoing investigation by some entity. I’ve gotten a few love letters from CBP over the years, but never had any issue with domestic USPS shipments.
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