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[MrTexas2]

I tried to put the order through the web site. When I clicked on the "pay in wallet" it replied "cannot open the page because the address is invalid".

I am not the most tech savvy guy in the world so I just asked in an email if Opti could simply send me his bitcoin address so that I could directly send him the money. He has not responded.

EDIT: I just tried to put the order through again and now the website is not letting me move past the first checkout page.

 

[MrTexas2]

Opti did email me back....cs seems on point.

 

[MrTexas2]

UPDATE: I am having problems with the web site, but Opti has just sent me a very nice/polite email saying he will get things sorted ASAP.

So like I said, Customer Service seems to be on point, even for an old fart like me who can barely use bitcoin.

As we all know, the big issue right now seems to be cloudiness in reconstituted GH. I will be sure to report back the clarity of these Gold tops and I also have IGF-1 labs scheduled in a few weeks.

 

[AlexDavis43]

As we all know, the big issue right now seems to be cloudiness in reconstituted GH. I will be sure to report back the clarity of these Gold tops and I also have IGF-1 labs scheduled in a few weeks.

"As we all know"

This is something that is a big deal on your personal radar, which is fine. No need to try and make it seem like an epidemic that all GH users are on your side with. Cloudy vials are rare.

Still cool to see your IGF1 results in a few weeks.

 

[Mac81]

The more Meso IGF1 values that get added, the more fucked up it looks

WILD variance (as expected because it's not controlled for anything, just what people reported mainly in the Natty IGF1 thread) (thus the importance of controlled trials)

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across the bottom is GH dose

Now isn't there something that can happen.. similar to desensitization? I'm just asking because it's not something I know a whole hell of alot about. It appears like some guys go past the 20 mark quite a bit because over time they start to get less and less of a response from the same amount?

 

[BlackFrog]

Noob question... does anyone know if Opti does bulk discounts beyond the kits? Looking at a $1.5-2k order. Granted, his prices are insane as it is, so I'm not too bothered. Just want to know for planning.

 

[OldGHGuy]

The more Meso IGF1 values that get added, the more fucked up it looks

WILD variance (as expected because it's not controlled for anything, just what people reported mainly in the Natty IGF1 thread) (thus the importance of controlled trials)

View attachment 331012

across the bottom is GH dose

Natural (starting point) IGF-1 levels are also significantly sex and age-dependant, which would add to the variability here since they arent captured.

Age Range	IGF-1 Levels
21 to 25	109-353 (men); 101-347 (women)
26 to 30	101-307 (men); 91-308 (women)
31 to 35	95-290 (men); 84-281 (women)
36 to 40	90-278 (men); 79-259 (women)
41 to 45	84-270 (men); 74-239 (women)
46 to 50	81-263 (men); 70-225 (women)
51 to 55	74-255 (men); 65-216 (women)
56 to 60	68-247 (men); 60-207 (women)
61 to 65	64-240 (men); 57-202 (women)
66 to 70	59-230 (men); 52-196 (women)
71 to 75	53-222 (men); 48-191 (women)
76 to 80	45-207 (men); 42-185 (women)

Interesting, acromegaly is considered 1.3x the upper range of normal. See if you qualify!

 

[AlexDavis43]

Now isn't there something that can happen.. similar to desensitization? I'm just asking because it's not something I know a whole hell of alot about. It appears like some guys go past the 20 mark quite a bit because over time they start to get less and less of a response from the same amount?

There are some people trying to talk themselves out of running GH or justifying their non-use; or convince other people that they shouldn't be using it

If you don't want to blast GH for whatever reason, that's 100% OK

 

[Mac81]

There are some people trying to talk themselves out of running GH or justifying their non-use; or convince other people that they shouldn't be using it

If you don't want to blast GH for whatever reason, that's 100% OK

I don't see anything wrong with doing it,lol.. hell I just ordered some. I just said it appears like its counterproductive once you pass a certain dosage,the body can only produce so much at a certain point, I feel like instead of getting a bigger IGF rating, You're more likely to get bigger internal organs, and be growing all the things you're not trying to be growing. But this is true with most drugs, they all generally have a ceiling, You can't just keep taking more of most things and keep getting more from it. But honestly I don't care how much people do..

 

[Mac81]

I do find the risk vs reward rather interesting,once you exceed a certain dosage,and until now I never realized how low that really was until now. It's gives me a darn good idea how much I plan on doing,Im surprised how cheap it actually is take a reasonable dose. I definitely don't plan on doing as much as you can afford..lol . For myself personally that just doesn't make any sense, but I'm sure it does for some people and to each his own, I'm not pointing fingers

 

[AlexDavis43]

I don't see anything wrong with doing it,lol.. hell I just ordered some. I just said it appears like its counterproductive once you pass a certain dosage,the body can only produce so much at a certain point. Which is true with most drugs.. I don't care how much people do..

The effects of GH go beyond IGF1

Some people don't even get much IGF1 but they keep using GH

 

[Mac81]

I was just looking at it from the standpoint of, having a rating of 500 is more than anybody is ever going to produce even in their prime, the best years of their life, unless we're talking when you're a juvenile going through puberty. Yet 500 isn't so far beyond the scale of being something that's going to f*** you up If you tried to maintain it long term, which is what I'm more interested in for myself, seems like you can maintain 500 with very little GH, and be able to maintain it for years on end without spending a fortune or seriously risking your health.. which is which is why I'm more interested in it for myself, where I can get the most benefit from it, The fat loss, The skin hair and cosmetic effects and a serious IGF boost,with the least health risk, and getting the most for my dollar. I'm sorry if it seemed like I was directing it at someone else, I'm not I'm just trying to figure out some things for myself That's all I was getting at, I was stating the facts that I had dug up, and looking for some healthy input from other people as far as what they thought, just trying to come to some conclusions, It's better sometimes when more than one person looks at something, because you don't always see everything on your own

 

[Mac81]

For instance another question I had... From what I I have read, nobody can even definitively prove that GH even builds muscle, The only thing they've been able to prove is that it preserves muscle, It seems like there's a lot of theories but the only thing they can 100% pinpoint is that it definitely boosts your IGF which could build muscle, It seems like it's more of a cosmetic drug at least what science has proven so far... I'm curious what people think of that and if anybody thinks any different, because I never really realized that until now. I always thought it was this drug that caused hyperplasia, And all these people took it through the years and got super f****** jacked, but it seems like there's no data to support that anywhere, The only thing they do know it grows is bone and cartilage, and organs??? Is that factual?

 

[AlexDavis43]

I was just looking at it from the standpoint of, having a rating of 500 is more than anybody is ever going to produce even in their prime, the best years of their life, unless we're talking when you're a juvenile going through puberty. Yet 500 isn't so far beyond the scale of being something that's going to f*** you up If you tried to maintain it long term, which is what I'm more interested in for myself, seems like you can maintain 500 with very little GH, and be able to maintain it for years on end without spending a fortune or seriously risking your health.. which is which is why I'm more interested in it for myself, where I can get the most benefit from it, The fat loss, The skin hair and cosmetic effects and a serious IGF boost,with the least health risk, and getting the most for my dollar. I'm sorry if it seemed like I was directing it at someone else, I'm not I'm just trying to figure out some things for myself That's all I was getting at, I was stating the facts that I had dug up, and looking for some healthy input from other people as far as what they thought, just trying to come to some conclusions, It's better sometimes when more than one person looks at something, because you don't always see everything on your own

My bad, I didn't see you were switching from "no added benefits to body composition" (which is mainly neutral) to "it's gonna fuck you up long-term" (which is clearly negative)

I don't think GH is gonna fuck anyone up long-term

I remember a study on IGF1 & high protein diets showing a negative effect on mortality risk

I'm going to keep doing things to improve body composition and physical performance mmmkay

 

[AlexDavis43]

For instance another question I had... From what I I have read, nobody can even definitively prove that GH even builds muscle, The only thing they've been able to prove is that it preserves muscle, It seems like there's a lot of theories but the only thing they can 100% pinpoint is that it definitely boosts your IGF which could build muscle, It seems like it's more of a cosmetic drug at least what science has proven so far... I'm curious what people think of that and if anybody thinks any different, because I never really realized that until now. I always thought it was this drug that caused hyperplasia, And all these people took it through the years and got super f****** jacked, but it seems like there's no data to support that anywhere, The only thing they do know it grows is bone and cartilage, and organs??? Is that factual?

Are you trying to demand that people convince you of something that you can't find with the search bar? Just frustrated?

Idk man maybe GH isn't for you, no one else has ever needed as much convincing, it's either yay or nay

Or since you already ordered it, stick to 2 IU/d, no big deal

 

[Mac81]

Are you trying to demand that people convince you of something that you can't find with the search bar? Just frustrated?

Idk man maybe GH isn't for you, no one else has ever needed as much convincing, it's either yay or nay

Or since you already ordered it, stick to 2 IU/d, no big deal

Okay don't answer my question just be a f*** stick like you always are, I'll get the answer somewhere else

 

[Mac81]

Obviously I've been reading on it for months, And I wouldn't be asking on here If I didn't want to verify everything I read, I'm sorry I asked you a question and it pains you so much to reply without being a condescending dick and just being rude instead of polite.

 

[Mac81]

You keep saying it's not for you obviously, when I just stated I bought it and I'm about to take it, I feel like you're trying to convince me not to take it

 

[Mac81]

What are you like the GH gatekeeper, your butthole hurts when somebody talks about it, for f*** sake all I did was ask a bunch of questions, I'll f****** take it if I want to take it, probably just like you took it from your buddy last night, I wanted any more lip from you I would have already pulled down my zipper, This discussion is over, I'm done talking about it.

 

[AlexDavis43]

You keep saying it's not for you obviously, when I just stated I bought it and I'm about to take it, I feel like you're trying to convince me not to take it

No dude, I'm the one telling people to take as much GH as they can afford and tolerate

Not everyone responds the same and there aren't any randomized clinical trials on various doses in bodybuilders; you'll know soon enough how you respond when you start taking it

Okay don't answer my question just be a f*** stick like you always are, I'll get the answer somewhere else

Fuck stick. Really?

What are you like the GH gatekeeper, your butthole hurts when somebody talks about it, for f*** sake all I did was ask a bunch of questions, I'll f****** take it if I want to take it, probably just like you took it from your buddy last night

Homophobia too. Who's the butthurt one?