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Ok, I’m a bit confused. The Gold Tops show 40.80 IU/Vial in the description however the Jano report shows 12.7, 13.7 and 14.3 per vial. Which is it???
 
Ok, I’m a bit confused. The Gold Tops show 40.80 IU/Vial in the description however the Jano report shows 12.7, 13.7 and 14.3 per vial. Which is it???
The 12.7mg, 13.7mg and 14.3mg measures the mass of the actual HGH. They are the mg amount in the vials with variance testing. IU measures the potency.

- 1mg of HGH ≈ 3IU

12.7mg ≈ 38iu
13.7mg ≈ 41iu
14.3mg ≈ 43iu
 
Been exclusively on the grey tops for about 1.5 years now with great results, but the pricing of the other ones are too hard to beat. What's everyone's go to color top? Skeptical to switch since the greys have been too good for me but I am being a cheap bastard now.
I'm also wondering this. If you notice underneath the optitropin dark greys it says

" These kits are manufactured in a licensed GMP facility that meets pharmacopeia standard"

And all others it says

" is a collaboration between Opti and a GMP certified facility to manufacture somatropin per required need and specifications"
 
Recommending to reheat a vial to prevent it from crashing ever again is the stupidest thing I heard.

The only thing that prevents it from crashing again is solvents, heat is just a temporary fix(it's a good fix)


Moron needs to stop trying to respond to every inquiry, especially when he has no idea what he is talking about

I have a feeling his search AI doesn't mention that it will recrash after it's room temp for sometime
I definitely dont want to get in the middle of this one but...I have received crashed 250 Test C vials that upon heating in the oven have returned to normal and stayed uncrashed.

I think its a matter of the temp threshold that a particular vial has based on solvent content and the corresponding temp after heating. Example: I received a crashed Test C vial over the winter when it was 20 degrees F outside. When warmed in the oven and returned to room temp, it stayed good.

So its not so idiotic to think that if a vial crashed due to extreme cold, it could be warmed and kept and room temp and be g2g. I've done it. 250 Test C comes crashed often. Its no big deal just make sure there are no crystals when you inject (which WILL not be fun).
 
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I definitely dont want to get in the middle of this one but...I have received crashed 250 Test C vials that upon heating in the oven have returned to normal and stayed uncrashed.

I think its a matter of the temp threshold that a particular vial has based on solvent content and the corresponding temp after heating. Example: I received a crashed Test C vial over the winter when it was 20 degrees F outside. When warmed in the oven and returned to room temp, it stayed good.

So its not so idiotic to think that if a vial crashed due to extreme cold, it could be warmed and kept and room temp and be g2g. I've done it. 250 Test C comes crashed often. Its no big deal just make sure there are no crystals when you inject (which WILL not be fun).
It depends on the root cause of the crash.

Temperature vs not enough solvents but to say it as a blanket statement to fix it is ridiculous
 
I definitely dont want to get in the middle of this one but...I have received crashed 250 Test C vials that upon heating in the oven have returned to normal and stayed uncrashed.

I think its a matter of the temp threshold that a particular vial has based on solvent content and the corresponding temp after heating. Example: I received a crashed Test C vial over the winter when it was 20 degrees F outside. When warmed in the oven and returned to room temp, it stayed good.

So its not so idiotic to think that if a vial crashed due to extreme cold, it could be warmed and kept and room temp and be g2g. I've done it. 250 Test C comes crashed often. Its no big deal just make sure there are no crystals when you inject (which WILL not be fun).
That's not what was being discussed though. I had stated that it crashed at room temperature , reheated and crashed again and again at room temperature.
if it crashes from extreme cold that's to be expected that it would be fine after reheating it .
The whole point of the post was just to see If there were anyone else who had this problem. Which it seems I was the only one.
 
That's not what was being discussed though. I had stated that it crashed at room temperature , reheated and crashed again and again at room temperature.
if it crashes from extreme cold that's to be expected that it would be fine after reheating it .
The whole point of the post was just to see If there were anyone else who had this problem. Which it seems I was the only one.

You're not the only one. I've had some rogue vials of test C that kept re-crashing.
 
That's not what was being discussed though. I had stated that it crashed at room temperature , reheated and crashed again and again at room temperature.
if it crashes from extreme cold that's to be expected that it would be fine after reheating it .
The whole point of the post was just to see If there were anyone else who had this problem. Which it seems I was the only one.
Bingo.


Ultimately shit happens. The test c vials are still viable. No disrespect to @Opti
 
I'm also wondering this. If you notice underneath the optitropin dark greys it says

" These kits are manufactured in a licensed GMP facility that meets pharmacopeia standard"

And all others it says

" is a collaboration between Opti and a GMP certified facility to manufacture somatropin per required need and specifications"
Always just assumed product was purchased from a GMP manufacturer and then put into vials in a kitchen. But no one cares because the product is good.
 
Test cyp crashes. I have had test cyp from numerous sources (very reliable ones) that crash. You heat them up and they are fine. I’ve had my clinics test crash before. At this point I question test cyp if it never crashes :)……
 
4 days after second injection Opti test e GSO in other glute still a big painful knot
Have you tried other oils like MTC, safflower oil, sesame oil, or coconut oil?

There's a new one out from Comb's Industries called BBCBO that's not new to the market but seems to be liked a lot in certain high roller groups but currently has some legal issues for being a pain in the butt too.
 
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