On Cycle Ancillaries + Supplements

[Raww]

I honestly would if I had the injection sites for it. It’s not something I personally will take SubQ because I lump up from it so I need at least shallow IM.

Oh man, yeah - I tried glut subQ once. Had a golf ball sized lump rubbing on my belt for a week.

 

[Andrewthatguy]

Oh man, yeah - I tried glut subQ once. Had a golf ball sized lump rubbing on my belt for a week.

lol I get making mistakes like that. I’ve heard many people coping trying to take gear sub q and I’m like dude, just stick it in your muscle like a normal person,

 

[Jsilk757]

I’ve been doing 600mg EOD injectable glutathione since starting a 4 week run of anadrol 50mg ED. ALT/AST,GGT,Bilirubin total/direct all stayed within range for the 4 week run. Cystatin C slightly elevated

The glutathione is a game changer for sure!

 

[Andrewthatguy]

I’ve been doing 600mg EOD injectable glutathione since starting a 4 week run of anadrol 50mg ED. ALT/AST,GGT,Bilirubin total/direct all stayed within range for the 4 week run. Cystatin C slightly elevated

The glutathione is a game changer for sure!

Holy shit I gotta grab me some of that

 

[frofrank]

I’ve been doing 600mg EOD injectable glutathione since starting a 4 week run of anadrol 50mg ED. ALT/AST,GGT,Bilirubin total/direct all stayed within range for the 4 week run. Cystatin C slightly elevated

The glutathione is a game changer for sure!

Did you get your glutathione from a vendor on here? I’ve been trying to find a good source.

 

[Jsilk757]

Did you get your glutathione from a vendor on here? I’ve been trying to find a good source.

No bought it from a Korean beauty site. Pharma grade

Glutaone Inj 1200mg: Buy Online – Skin Reboot

Unlock the power of Glutaone Inj 1200mg for radiant skin. Purchase online at Skin Reboot for a brighter, healthier complexion

skin-reboot.com

 

[RockyP]

Did you get your glutathione from a vendor on here? I’ve been trying to find a good source.

No bought it from a Korean beauty site. Pharma grade

Glutaone Inj 1200mg: Buy Online – Skin Reboot

Unlock the power of Glutaone Inj 1200mg for radiant skin. Purchase online at Skin Reboot for a brighter, healthier complexion

skin-reboot.com

that Korean Pharma stuff ships faster that some of my amazon orders. Great price too. Gotta go IM with the glut. SubQ is a no-go. The more concentrated you make it the more it will sting, but it's not terrible. Prior to using KP I ran one that was already in solution from a vendor on here at 200 mg / ml and it was entirely painless.

 

[2ndchancesNK]

Did you get your glutathione from a vendor on here? I’ve been trying to find a good source.

The Korean sources are legit. I attempted to get mine from them around the new year, but unfortunately my package was stopped at customs and sent back to sender. Company offered a reship, but during that time went OOS and it would have been a longer wait then I would have like. Money was back in my hands the following week though for my refund.

Check out the Glutathione thread in the HGh/Peps section — a guy just posted a US Dom source that does Korea prices if you don’t want to try out international.

 

[2ndchancesNK]

that Korean Pharma stuff ships faster that some of my amazon orders. Great price too. Gotta go IM with the glut. SubQ is a no-go. The more concentrated you make it the more it will sting, but it's not terrible. Prior to using KP I ran one that was already in solution from a vendor on here at 200 mg / ml and it was entirely painless.

Used him in a pinch and had the same experience — no pip and smooth. I was doing 3ml at a time.

I have 1600mg vials now and reconstitute them with 4ml to make 400mg/ml and it’s more than manageable.

 

[Jsilk757]

Used him in a pinch and had the same experience — no pip and smooth. I was doing 3ml at a time.

I have 1600mg vials now and reconstitute them with 4ml to make 400mg/ml and it’s more than manageable.

I mix the 1200mg vial with 1.65ml of bac

That gives me exactly two 600mg/ml injections

As long as you let it warm to room temperature, barely any bite at all. If you pin it cold, different story haha

 

[graystyx]

Not sure why I died laughing at you adding “(with snack)” to your afternoon supplement protocol, but I did haha.

All good protocols are created with blood work and regular BG and BP testing in mind to guide you.

I take Telmisartan 80mg and Ezetimibe 10mg and will likely add in Pitavastatin at 2mg or 4mg for a better lipid profile. Telmisartan usually does it for my on cycle and off cycle, but I’m considering a calcium channel blocker to stack with if BP becomes a problem with increasing body weight and cardio isn’t doing the trick.

OTC supplements I find value in are:

EPA/DHA
CoQ-10
D3K2
TUDCA (if blasting hepatotoxic compounds)

Doing more research into Astragalus to see if it’s worth the coin for kidney health.

Where are you sourcing

 

[crispybacon!]

that Korean Pharma stuff ships faster that some of my amazon orders. Great price too. Gotta go IM with the glut. SubQ is a no-go. The more concentrated you make it the more it will sting, but it's not terrible. Prior to using KP I ran one that was already in solution from a vendor on here at 200 mg / ml and it was entirely painless.

Is SQ a no go simply because of the lumps, or is it less effective?

I’ve been using 1200mg KR glutathione (Skin Reboot), mixed with 2ml bac and 0.5ml 2% lidocaine via SQ. Mainly doing this because I use an insulin pen for convenience. I’ve notice that over time, I’ve experienced less severe lumps and the lidocaine makes the injection completely painless.

If it’s more effective, I would switch to IM, but if it’s for lumps/pain, I feel like I’ve mitigated that for the most part. I do now have some 1/2” 29g pen needles so could achieve IM while still using my pen.

 

[RockyP]

I think it’s totally fine if you’re tolerating it / not getting the lumps from subQ

Is SQ a no go simply because of the lumps, or is it less effective?

I’ve been using 1200mg KR glutathione (Skin Reboot), mixed with 2ml bac and 0.5ml 2% lidocaine via SQ. Mainly doing this because I use an insulin pen for convenience. I’ve notice that over time, I’ve experienced less severe lumps and the lidocaine makes the injection completely painless.

If it’s more effective, I would switch to IM, but if it’s for lumps/pain, I feel like I’ve mitigated that for the most part. I do now have some 1/2” 29g pen needles so could achieve IM while still using my pen.

 

[Raww]

Is SQ a no go simply because of the lumps, or is it less effective?

I’ve been using 1200mg KR glutathione (Skin Reboot), mixed with 2ml bac and 0.5ml 2% lidocaine via SQ. Mainly doing this because I use an insulin pen for convenience. I’ve notice that over time, I’ve experienced less severe lumps and the lidocaine makes the injection completely painless.

If it’s more effective, I would switch to IM, but if it’s for lumps/pain, I feel like I’ve mitigated that for the most part. I do now have some 1/2” 29g pen needles so could achieve IM while still using my pen.

From what I've read and seen, the difference with SQ vs IM for glut is that SQ might be that it's slightly less effective per dose.

Glut clears from the blood fast (10-15 min half life), so the slower absorption while sitting SQ means it's trickling in while the already absorbed glut is already getting broken down or used up.

IM absorbs faster, so you get a quicker peak in the blood. I've read that gives better systemic results for the same amount.

Apparently clinics lean toward IM for "stronger" or "faster" effects. And that you might need a higher dose or to dose more often to get the exact same effectiveness. It's not like SQ does nothing, it just might be 'slightly' less effective. But if it's much more convenient for you to do it that way, I don't see a slightly less effective (if it is - it's seems all hear-say as I don't have any actual studies or numbers to reference) protocol as being a game ender.

 

[crispybacon!]

From what I've read and seen, the difference with SQ vs IM for glut is that SQ might be that it's slightly less effective per dose.

Glut clears from the blood fast (10-15 min half life), so the slower absorption while sitting SQ means it's trickling in while the already absorbed glut is already getting broken down or used up.

IM absorbs faster, so you get a quicker peak in the blood. I've read that gives better systemic results for the same amount.

Apparently clinics lean toward IM for "stronger" or "faster" effects. And that you might need a higher dose or to dose more often to get the exact same effectiveness. It's not like SQ does nothing, it just might be 'slightly' less effective. But if it's much more convenient for you to do it that way, I don't see a slightly less effective (if it is - it's seems all hear-say as I don't have any actual studies or numbers to reference) protocol as being a game ender.

I’ve got 1/2” pen needles, so might as well give IM a try!

 

[Raww]

I’ve got 1/2” pen needles, so might as well give IM a try!

BTW, I just did a dose of Glut subq with some lidocaine in it as you do - not a bit of bite to it. Thanks!

 

[nasi]

Been doing some research on some ancillaries and supplements I should take while on cycle, and have created a short draft with a sentence to show my reasoning on why I'm taking it. Let me know if this is valid.

currently cruising on 280 mg test, 6 iu gh, and 250 iu hcg 3x a week (aromasin is on hand but I'm doing daily injections and I haven't noticed any e2 sides)

Morning (with breakfast)​

• Telmisartan 20–40 mg: (gonna start with 20, just gonna cut it in half since its 40mg tablet) Controls blood pressure via ARB mechanism
• Nebivolol 5 mg: Lowers heart rate and prevents LVH + encourages vasodilation
• Citrus bergamot 500 mg: Improves lipid profile and glucose homeostasis - need this since im taking gh

Afternoon (with snack)​

• TUDCA 500 mg: Supports liver function
• Isotretinoin 10 mg: Helps with acne

Dinner (with protein)​

• Fish oil 2 g EPA+DHA: Lowers triglycerides and inflammation
• Ezetimibe 10 mg: Reduces LDL cholesterol absorption
• CoQ10 200 mg + Melatonin 100 mg: Ubiquinol coq10 supports mitochondrial energy and heart recovery, melatonin mega dosed has A LOT of antioxidant benefits (Ubiquinol is the better more active form than ubiquinone, since its 1.5–2x higher plasma levels in older adults, and bypasses conversion step that declines with age) (coq10 to coq2 is ubiquinone to Ubiquinol)

up the fish oil to 4grams, i just had blood work and was deficient at 2gs