BigDadd7
Member
What are you talking about? It's no one's responsibility to guide but his mother.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
OLDGENS GTFIH
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noir
New Member
I just want to understand the fundamentals/basics
Like I feel I genuinely know the bare minimum,
this is what im currently thinking for first stack though just so you can gauge
Test e 250
Deca 125 (i heard 2:1) ratio is optimal when used with test obviously
Anavar (Havent figured the dosing yet)
Aromasin (Havent figured out dosing yet either)
Tudca (for liver support)
maybe primo but idk yet
goals - just pack on as much as i can on my bideltoid LOL
IndividualMan
Member
Go through every Main thread discussing each steroid, and you will see how people percieve them. after that, look into first cycle logs, and read some long term cycle logs, @Slowww has an especially detailed log and proven results.
After that, read one of the billion compond discussion that pop up again and again (Is primo better than EQ? should you take Tbol? Is Dbol good? what does Anadrol do to your appetite as an oral vs and injectable, what peptides did the most for you, what is the perfect bulking stack,etc.)
Study for medical school if you are in a country that has exams to get into med school and some of your friends are studying for it. or at least read some medical journals, medical guidelines/national association Journals for each specialty (nephrology, cardiovascular, internal medicine, etc.) if you if you are in EU.
Once you are ready, around 21-22yo, I would suggest looking into homebrewing threads. those can save you a shitton of money (or cost you thousands, lmao)
hellerhiwater
Member
i appreciate your enthusiasm and temperance. the thread title being "knowledgeable people, get the fuck in here" might cause some problems. you'll catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
if you are truly committed though, do the work of sifting through the threads yourself to find the best information. if something seems interesting or important, try to corroborate it in some way before adding it as a brick in your knowledge wall.
the search function on this and many other forums can be hit or miss. id recommend trying multiple search terms, and also searching for titles only for any solid terms you come up with.
the most important part of my comment though; you might not have luck beckoning people to you and then asking them to go find the threads for you.
a better strategy might look like this
thread title: "new young guy here, starting peds in 4 years"
thread content: "i am looking for solid information on primo, deca, test,and cycle design. i have found these 3 threads (link them) and they have solid info, but im curious if there is more. is anyone willing to point me in the direction of more threads you've found helpful?"
bonus points if you also confidently state something you know to be incorrect. this will often bait people into correcting you and thru the principle of reciprocity when you thank them for the correction you can usually extract a lead or information from them regarding the correct thing.
if you are truly committed though, do the work of sifting through the threads yourself to find the best information. if something seems interesting or important, try to corroborate it in some way before adding it as a brick in your knowledge wall.
the search function on this and many other forums can be hit or miss. id recommend trying multiple search terms, and also searching for titles only for any solid terms you come up with.
the most important part of my comment though; you might not have luck beckoning people to you and then asking them to go find the threads for you.
a better strategy might look like this
thread title: "new young guy here, starting peds in 4 years"
thread content: "i am looking for solid information on primo, deca, test,and cycle design. i have found these 3 threads (link them) and they have solid info, but im curious if there is more. is anyone willing to point me in the direction of more threads you've found helpful?"
bonus points if you also confidently state something you know to be incorrect. this will often bait people into correcting you and thru the principle of reciprocity when you thank them for the correction you can usually extract a lead or information from them regarding the correct thing.
IndividualMan
Member
that was my exact first cycle idea when I was 17/18. (Plus i thought mast+primo was a good idea for a first cycle) how cute.
Evident you ahve a lot to learn still, but its good to see kids being patient despite their obvious excitement
noir
New Member
thank you for this, genuinely
sudo
Member
Its the responsibility of the elder to guide the younger that is how society works in general, all these years of cumulative research is to help others not fall for the same traps that others did. In the end we learn from the mistakes of our predecessors
IndividualMan
Member
productive ragebaiting
sudo
Member
Dont stack 2 many stuff on your first cycle, ease in 1 by 1 imo test should be the only thing you take first cycle
noir
New Member
thanks, yes i understand my mistake now.
thanks for the advice, ill take it into account.
also for the last piece of advice yeah but this will for sure make people call me an iqlet retard idk abt this forum tho im new people on here might actually be nice
ill try it tho
noir
New Member
IndividualMan
Member
true, but i feel like those who get the support of their elders should be "worthy" of it. Doing it for the right reason (NOT looksmaxxing similar to .org tards and their protocols) and being genuinely excited to learn.
No sense in spoonfeeding barely literate stubborn people in their mid teens.
noir
New Member
i assume the reasoning behind this is because you develop better resistance to androgens over time or?
BigDadd7
Member
No. This is a kid in here asking for advice on how to ruin his endocrine system before it has finished developing.
noir
New Member
yeah i came from lms forums which i am pretty knowledgeable in but i always didnt research THAT much about roids which is why i came here
also i understand the spoonfeeding aspect cuz it irritates me when newgens just expect us to spoonfed them. (which is exactly what i did in my first meso rx post LOL)
sudo
Member
Semi truthful here, i do agree guys should be worthy of the information give but tbh a lot us went into peds for dumb reasons (no good reason outside of competing imo)
noir
New Member
im not gonna run my first cycle until im older.
regardless i understand the risks and i accept them
sudo
Member
then you tell him that? its not hard to tell these guys the risk to reward ratio of PED's but instead people resort to bashing and insults which wont benefit nobody
BigDadd7
Member
Respectfully, this is a bad idea at 18. I know you're going to do what youre going to do, regardless. Read, a lot, and consider the people giving you advice- are they other young people with no real experience? Or are they old guys that have been there done that?
IndividualMan
Member
Price, Balding risk, PIP (for some) avaliability, low increase in Muscle protein syntesis compared to compounds many tolerate better.
You will want to do Test only because you want to see how you respond to the Base you will always iclude in every cycle, so that when you do your 2nd and 3rd cycle you can just drop to your cruise and be fine instead of panicking and dropping everything immediately.
More of a safety net thing as well. Test is usually well tolerated, plus it lets you gauge your need for an AI. which can save your ass later.
eh, plenty of reasons to do gear. Competing is barely top3 reasons to hop on. Quality of life is def a good reason. Shit, I would argue taking gear/planning to take gear to motivate yourself to study physiology and pharmacology is an equally good reason as competing. Also congrats on member status
