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[trianglechump]

Has anyone ran Test Decanoate at their TRT level, then used a shorter ester like prop to cycle higher?

Test Decanoate is appealing because of the lower volume and longer ester, but I've never dosed test above 170mg and don't want my first try to be with a super long acting ester. I want to be able to cycle down quickly if something starts to go wrong.

What do you guys think of stacking test prop on top of Test Decanoate?.........and a TNE PWO 2-3 times a week?

My estradiol was 100 when I ran 170mg test cyp.

It's pretty common to use a long ester as a baseline. I use 200mg of Test-U year 'round and when going higher add Test-C instead of more Test-U. It's worked well for me and helps me clear out some inventory of Test-C.

 

[Oldhand]

I think that's the deadline for getting the orders packed and shipped out from the latest opening man. I can only imagine that side of the workload! Make sure you stop by GNC and snag a few of those $.90 cans of ghost energy to help you through it brother Pench haha!

Ok this makes more sense. The recent ment and halo talk threw me off.

 

[OEP LABS]

I think that's the deadline for getting the orders packed and shipped out from the latest opening man. I can only imagine that side of the workload! Make sure you stop by GNC and snag a few of those $.90 cans of ghost energy to help you through it brother Pench haha!

Yessir good idea definitely down to try.
@Oldhand yessir it was for the push on completion of all invoices that came in
November 28.

 

[bigdaddyandfriends]

Has anyone ran Test Decanoate at their TRT level, then used a shorter ester like prop to cycle higher?

Test Decanoate is appealing because of the lower volume and longer ester, but I've never dosed test above 170mg and don't want my first try to be with a super long acting ester. I want to be able to cycle down quickly if something starts to go wrong.

What do you guys think of stacking test prop on top of Test Decanoate?.........and a TNE PWO 2-3 times a week?

My estradiol was 100 when I ran 170mg test cyp.

This can work well. I usually use Test E to set my trough level and Test P to seat my peak. A lot of compounding pharmacies make similar mixes, usually with test C/P, although I think they often defeat the purpose by using too much long ester and too little short ester; I like mixing ~50/50 which approximates normal diurnal release in young healthy men which is about 30% drop between am to pm. You can simulate this with TNE too.

If you have high E2 conversion or Hct problems with long esters, consider changing at least partially to a shorter ester. I find test P converts proportionally more to DHT than E2 compared to longer esters. All compounds that I've used that caused Hct creep were long esters (EQ, primo, and test). The daily level variation helps with sleep (lower levels at night) and isn't maximally stimulating erythropoiesis around the clock. Peak levels are also higher with short esters, which may drive more protein synthesis than stable lower levels, even if the 'area under the curve' ends up being similar.

 

[Elektrobot]

This can work well. I usually use Test E to set my trough level and Test P to seat my peak. A lot of compounding pharmacies make similar mixes, usually with test C/P, although I think they often defeat the purpose by using too much long ester and too little short ester; I like mixing ~50/50 which approximates normal diurnal release in young healthy men which is about 30% drop between am to pm. You can simulate this with TNE too.

If you have high E2 conversion or Hct problems with long esters, consider changing at least partially to a shorter ester. I find test P converts proportionally more to DHT than E2 compared to longer esters. All compounds that I've used that caused Hct creep were long esters (EQ, primo, and test). The daily level variation helps with sleep (lower levels at night) and isn't maximally stimulating erythropoiesis around the clock. Peak levels are also higher with short esters, which may drive more protein synthesis than stable lower levels, even if the 'area under the curve' ends up being similar.

Sounds like some solid advice to tinker with. Thank you

 

[Lil_swole87]

The Raw game indeed has definitely changed. To add, This vendor out of many that I’ve dealt with has done more for us than others.

The others, 1 was leveraged hard and paid us back. He apologized later and requested a second chance.

Will keep everyone updated on the outcome of this between the vendor and I.

In the meantime what should I do with this mix of disappointment called sustanon.

Well simple. offer it up as a blessing for the guy that run sust and deca tell them the deca in their is to cut down oil leaves room for extra

 

[JBird99]

This can work well. I usually use Test E to set my trough level and Test P to seat my peak. A lot of compounding pharmacies make similar mixes, usually with test C/P, although I think they often defeat the purpose by using too much long ester and too little short ester; I like mixing ~50/50 which approximates normal diurnal release in young healthy men which is about 30% drop between am to pm. You can simulate this with TNE too.

If you have high E2 conversion or Hct problems with long esters, consider changing at least partially to a shorter ester. I find test P converts proportionally more to DHT than E2 compared to longer esters. All compounds that I've used that caused Hct creep were long esters (EQ, primo, and test). The daily level variation helps with sleep (lower levels at night) and isn't maximally stimulating erythropoiesis around the clock. Peak levels are also higher with short esters, which may drive more protein synthesis than stable lower levels, even if the 'area under the curve' ends up being similar.

I might have to tinker with some Test P, I’ve personally never used it at all so I’m a little nervous about the PIP and how to dose it. So basically you’re doing say 200 a week and it’s 100 prop and 100 test e/c to maintain levels?

 

[OEP LABS]

Well simple. offer it up as a blessing for the guy that run sust and deca tell them the deca in their is to cut down oil leaves room for extra

You’re spot on that’s exactly what the community gave me guidance to do and it was done at a 40% off believe.

I want let everyone know that didn’t get an email response that Nov28, within 48hrs I’m going to respond and help as much as possible without affecting the deadline. There were about 6-7 emails maybe off memory,

We will come up with a solution for you even after the deadline, I’ll do my best to help. Within 48hrs if you didn’t get a response please reach out to me.

Further, I’ve come up with a solution for Ment and Halo. Once we have everything il present the plan and all of us can voice an opinion to make it perfect.

Sincerely,
Pench

 

[JBird99]

Does anyone have any recent experience with test prop from our friend Pench?

 

[OEP LABS]

Please voice your opinion as I also would like to know. Some batches are smooth while others can be crippling.

 

[AllGoodThings]

Does anyone have any recent experience with test prop from our friend Pench?

Please voice your opinion as I also would like to know. Some batches are smooth while others can be crippling.

I went through a vial of it, in October I believe, was mixing it 50/50 with OEP T-400, and occasionally some other compounds. No pip for me at all. Top notch stuff, as with everything else OEP that I've taken.

 

[JBird99]

I went through a vial of it, in October I believe, was mixing it 50/50 with OEP T-400, and occasionally some other compounds. No pip for me at all. Top notch stuff, as with everything else OEP that I've taken.

Nice I’m planning on running it with some test e at a lower dose to see if I can solve my hematocrit issues. Unfortunately I came back at 19.9 recently from 18.3 just by switching my regular dose to IM.
I’m thinking of switching to daily injections but if anyone has any recommendations I’d appreciate the advice.

 

[Lil_swole87]

there was a large batch of this going around. QSC had this problem too. I cold filtered it. it went away for the most part.

I remember when I premade it into a jug and threw it in the fridge, looked like snot floating around in a 2L jug lol

Yeah but tbh if you just warmed it up tell it break's up in the oil it's fine some pip but tbh the base TRN in it gives it alot more punch. but you can't make everything one happy ,,

 

[Bigoldguy]

This probably doesnt help much as its capped (lab company didnt have an uncapped version...will use different company in the future).

300mg of TP per week divided into 7 shots. 61yo.

 

[Lil_swole87]

@Photon thank you for the input again.

All pics left were the interval heat passes on the media.

If it test out good then let it go we are in new times and the colors don't mean anything the haze that can make pip some but let's be real if you use a 1/2 inch that's why most people get pip go deeper..... Lol the comments I'm going to get for this one.. but for real 1 inch is cool but inch and a half you want feel shit in you bum bum come guys give a try see the difference

 

[Dial It In]

If it test out good then let it go we are in new times and the colors don't mean anything the haze that can make pip some but let's be real if you use a 1/2 inch that's why most people get pip go deeper..... Lol the comments I'm going to get for this one.. but for real 1 inch is cool but inch and a half you want feel shit in you bum bum come guys give a try see the difference

What she said

 

[Lil_swole87]

@TanFishMan from left to right.

TRE. TRA Batch2, PHK IT BLEND

TRE smooth as a blended anabolic protein shake lol amazing job Mr pench. <3

 

[Lil_swole87]

Preferably would like to keep it at or under 15 for TC per member if that is fine with all.

Since we on the quantity subject EQ is hurting. That one, more so under 10 per member please. It will be gone within the hr. Tried so hard to hold on to EQ.

I know that's right......you can't help the time thing that's in the big mans hands now. Shel we all pray. You got me still right

 

[OEP LABS]

I know that's right......you can't help the time thing that's in the big mans hands now. Shel we all pray. You got me still right

Always. Thank you for the words sir

Pray for good over us all.

 

[Dial It In]

Always. Thank you for the words sir

Pray for good over us all.

That Var hits great. I been running 30mg pre workout and it’s hitting better than any capsule I’ve used.