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[AllGoodThings]

I think that actual test level numbers on these plotters are to be taken with a grain of salt. Their use is primarily on comparing how an ester will build up.

Definitely. I've seen that plotter do some weird things, and I think there are some flaws in how certain things are factored.

 

[crispybacon!]

Honest question for those with experience here:

I’m currently using a Test 400 blend (200 mg Cypionate / 200 mg Enanthate). It has a mild bite, but nothing major. When I started seeing all the discussion about @OEP LABS T500 having zero PIP or bite, I was definitely interested. However, since I’ve never used Test D before, I decided to dig into the details first.

From what I found, dosing the same weekly milligrams of Test D vs. Test C (with once-per-week injections) produces a significant difference in overall serum testosterone saturation.

For reference, the data I came across compared 12 weeks of once weekly injections:

• Test C: Peak around 3,200 ng/dL
• Test D: Peak around 6,700 ng/dL

Given that difference, it seems like Test D might be trickier to dial in—whether you’re running a cycle or cruising.

So my question is: Am I missing something here, or is that generally an accurate comparison between Test C and Test D?


Appreciate any insight from those who’ve used both. Thanks in advance!


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Yeah, that’s weird. I had to cut the dosage almost in half to get the same concentration. It’s gotta be something with the plotter.

 

[Oldhand]

Definitely. I've seen that plotter do some weird things, and I think there are some flaws in how certain things are factored.

Right. There is no way the deconate ester increases things like that. If that were true we would all pour it on our wieners.

 

[sionnach]

Right. There is no way the deconate ester increases things like that. If that were true we would all pour it on our wieners.

You don't already?

 

[Coffezilla]

Right. There is no way the deconate ester increases things like that. If that were true we would all pour it on our wieners.

so i should stop?

 

[BamaCrazy]

Using a small amount of air as a "chaser" of sorts to push more oil through is actually perfectly acceptable for IM injections, and I do load a bit of air with every injection, if there's space in the syringe. I'll use about 0.1cc to 0.15cc with a 1ml syringe, and up to 0.3cc with a 3ml syringe. This practice is referred to as the air lock technique.

I haven’t tried them yet but those AHS syringes you mentioned look like they do not have a lot of dead space at all.

 

[AllGoodThings]

I haven’t tried them yet but those AHS syringes you mentioned look like they do not have a lot of dead space at all.

Yeah, as close to zero as is likely possible with a luer lock I'd imagine

 

[Photon]

Has anyone gotten more pip by going deeper? I bought some 25g 1.5inch nipros to test out, which I plan to use to inject into my DG (will have to figure out how to bend my body) but I don't think I've ever gone so deep before.

 

[bigdaddyandfriends]

I'm not referring to Easy Touch one piece insulin syringes, I only use those for peptides. I'm referring to the Easy Touch 1ml luer lock syringe only product. I attach a 22g for drawing all oils, then swap to a thinner needle like a 27 or 30g for injecting. I hate back loading insulin syringes, and don't bother with that. These 1ml luer locks have no noticeable dead space, there's just the tiniest bit of oil residue left after an injection, not enough to amount to anything remotely significant.

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Yeah every time I’ve tried to backload an insulin syringe I make a mess. Can work with water based stuff but not really with oil. Swapping needles is way easier and cleaner.

 

[OEP LABS]

Is there an ETA on more TD-500? Id like to get in on the next round haha.

I did purchase a little bit from a vendor that I trust however it may take awhile before we see it.

Round 2 !

 

[newguy2]

Yeah every time I’ve tried to backload an insulin syringe I make a mess. Can work with water based stuff but not really with oil. Swapping needles is way easier and cleaner.

I agree it's a pain. I stopped bothering with it.

 

[Dial It In]

You don't already?

I knew I was doing it wrong

 

[Dial It In]

Has anyone gotten more pip by going deeper? I bought some 25g 1.5inch nipros to test out, which I plan to use to inject into my DG (will have to figure out how to bend my body) but I don't think I've ever gone so deep before.

In general or in this 500? If you are talking this one from Pench I’ll try it to see but so far Ive got nothing from my quad injection. In the past just overall anything that has giving me PIP the depth didn’t matter for me personally. The only thing I noticed is more shallow pins it seemed to dissipate sooner.

 

[Dial It In]

I haven’t tried them yet but those AHS syringes you mentioned look like they do not have a lot of dead space at all.

Exactec I’ve gotten recently and they come in luer lock as well. It’s specifically designed for dead space. There are others but I haven’t tried those.

 

[Photon]

In general or in this 500? If you are talking this one from Pench I’ll try it to see but so far Ive got nothing from my quad injection. In the past just overall anything that has giving me PIP the depth didn’t matter for me personally. The only thing I noticed is more shallow pins it seemed to dissipate sooner.

In general

 

[Darealme83]

Haven't ordered yet, I'm actually contemplating sitting this one out, believe it or not. I have more test than I need, and a bunch of undecanoate in Castor from OEP for my long ester needs, and while this is a fantastic value per mg, and a unique ester/concentration, I need to start focusing on other compounds in order to have a lifetimes worth of them as well.

Are you doing anything special for storage? The oils you know you won’t touch for a few years?

 

[RockyP]

Are you doing anything special for storage? The oils you know you won’t touch for a few years?

@AllGoodThings I’ll let you take this one sir…

 

[Dial It In]

Are you doing anything special for storage? The oils you know you won’t touch for a few years?

LMAO…. not at you but you will see the answer to that one. Brother man is ready for the apocalypse

 

[phenominal34]

Backfilling an insulin syringe with oil is the easiest thing to do, not sure why some of you are having a problem with it…

Pull out plunger, put it inside the cap you pulled off the back to keep it sterile, load the oil in back of syringe, insert the plunger back in only a little to plug the syringe so oil doesn’t leak out, let all oil drop back down to black part of the plunger, push in plunger till you hear a small click that plunger is in the syringe now, give it a few seconds and push plunger in till oil drips down needle once to lube needle … inject !!

 

[OEP LABS]

Men upon waking, which most already are, please check your secure emails, secure message, teleG, many receipts(track) issued. If you were expecting one but did not please do not hesitate today to contact me asap.

I still have work ahead of me. There will be roughly 15ish Test D-500 left. I emailed those that didn't have a opportunity to grab, due to the work stoppage, apologies. I was buried in emails first day anyhow lol

Please I would like to make it clear, this pertains to those members that were declined due to the work stoppage then we can proceed from there to be fair.
Please men, those interested that got declined check your secure emails or reach out to me as well.

I will stay in touch don't hesitate to reach out