Novolin R - experience & timing

[adrenalytic]

If you're in USA, you can get Novolin R at Walmart for pretty cheap

My grocery store pharmacy has it for like $50; it's cheapest at Walmart ime

If the clerk or pharmacy tech is new, they might think it requires a prescription; you can try to assure them it doesn't and to look it up on their computer

or ask for the pharmacist, that usually gets things done.

 

[Laxman3221]

These charts mean effectively nothing to a non diabetic. 4iu of FIASP made me near hypo for 1 hour solid.

If you are on a glp1 or metformin or have good insulin sensitivity a tiny bit of insulin can fuck you up proper good.

Be careful.

They do if you know how to use insulin and how to dose. Like when people say R had two peaks, it doesn't, they just don't dose right or use it how it was designed.

And yes combining it with other Diabetic drugs and not knowing how they interact and how to dose them can put you down.

 

[AlexDavis43]

not used to combat it, used as replacement because you are not utilizing it well

My statement remains

Insulin is a shit treatment for insulin resistance; it makes it worse

As we are now seeing in abundance (GLP1s), the much more effective target is improving insulin sensitivity; injecting insulin is the antithesis

 

[rxParabolan]

My statement remains

Insulin is a shit treatment for insulin resistance; it makes it worse

As we are now seeing in abundance (GLP1s), the much more effective target is improving insulin sensitivity; injecting insulin is the antithesis

I personally use both together

 

[AlexDavis43]

These charts mean effectively nothing to a non diabetic. 4iu of FIASP made me near hypo for 1 hour solid.

If you are on a glp1 or metformin or have good insulin sensitivity a tiny bit of insulin can fuck you up proper good.

Be careful.

They do if you know how to use insulin and how to dose. Like when people say R had two peaks, it doesn't, they just don't dose right or use it how it was designed.

And yes combining it with other Diabetic drugs and not knowing how they interact and how to dose them can put you down.

Can't disagree with the FIASP comment → gotta be careful with that shit and carb timing etc

However with Novolin R, I can take 10 IU, have a light mixed meal, hit the gym for an hour, have another light mixed meal postworkout, and never go hypo

And it's not even high carb meals; the adage "10 grams of carbs per IU" I think is either outdated or Novolin R allows for much more flexibility

 

[bananafeet]

Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.

 

[bananafeet]

They do if you know how to use insulin and how to dose. Like when people say R had two peaks, it doesn't, they just don't dose right or use it how it was designed.

And yes combining it with other Diabetic drugs and not knowing how they interact and how to dose them can put you down.

No they don't. In normal subjects the counter regulatory hormones change the blood sugar levels and can cause swings in either direction.



In diabetics there are no responses like glucagon or insulin in response to blood sugar changes.

You can read about it here: JCI - Influence of Continuous Physiologic Hyperinsulinemia on Glucose Kinetics and Counterregulatory Hormones in Normal and Diabetic Humans

 

[xrayphoton13]

by no means is my dose a recommendation but I was just explaining how novo R isn't like a analog insulin and is spread out throughout 12 hours so you can dose higher. What type of slin were you using?

I feel like you must be confusing novalin r with novolin n. I'm just going off the chart below. You compared novolin r to lantus but novilin n is the long acting that's usually compared to lantus, especially if used every 8 hours to keep it steady.
You stated to use novolin r 2 hours before before eating but the chart shows novolin n starts to workk in 2 hours with novolin r at working at 30 minutes which matches when everyone else says to eat. You stated novilin r lasts around 12 hours but again the chart shows that to be true for novolin n. Novolin r appears to be gone by 6 hours.



I've only ever used novolin r IM in the delt so my experience has been that it works quickly. I've never tried subq