Nolvadex ?

[MUSCLEWORM]

Hey bros got a question on nolv. I've done two cycles before. Pyramids. This time I'm running it straight through for 10-12 wks. Ena.500mg/wk
and EQ 400mg/wk. I've never used anite's but I thought I better on this one. My question is, does this look right?
10weeks = 70 days,
40mg/day nolv. x 70 days = 2800mg
Nolva comes in 10mg tabs, 30 tabs to pkg. = 300 mg for $45
The way I figure it I'm going to need atleast 9 pkgs at $45 a piece.
Thats f***ing over $400 just for nolva. Twice as much as what I spent on the stuff thats going to make me grow.
Am I lookin at this right?
thanks muscleworm

 

[Chip Bronson]

Hey bros got a question on nolv. I've done two cycles before. Pyramids. This time I'm running it straight through for 10-12 wks. Ena.500mg/wk
and EQ 400mg/wk. I've never used anite's but I thought I better on this one. My question is, does this look right?
10weeks = 70 days,
40mg/day nolv. x 70 days = 2800mg
Nolva comes in 10mg tabs, 30 tabs to pkg. = 300 mg for $45
The way I figure it I'm going to need atleast 9 pkgs at $45 a piece.
Thats f***ing over $400 just for nolva. Twice as much as what I spent on the stuff thats going to make me grow.
Am I lookin at this right?
thanks muscleworm[/QUOTE

with these dosages, you probably won't need the nolva. however, you may want to keep some on hand just in case you get the tell-tale signs of gyno, such as itchy, swollen or painful nips. if you get the sides, then you can start taking it at 20mg/day. you should start to see a difference within a few days. if not, then you can go to 40mg/day.

i understand your concern, as i've been there but the good bros on this bros set me straight regarding this issue. it is better to be safe than sorry so keep them on hand just in case you need them but, again, you probably won't. on a side note, by lowering your estrogen too much, you risk diminishing the potential gains to be had from your cycle as estrogen plays a vital part in the growth process.

also, the price you quoted for the nolva is way too high. try liquid research (great prices; a fraction of what you mention) or, if you must have the tabs, try medsmex. the price is almost half what you mentioned.

ps- if you're really paranoid, and you shouldn't be, then just take 10mg nolva eod. this way you've got some protection without cutting too much into your gains. hope this helps.

 

[MUSCLEWORM]

Thanks bro, yeah I'd rather be safe than sorry. I just didn't know if my figures were correct and if thats what the going price was for nolva. thanks, you just saved me some money. Plus I take it that your not suppose to start using it til you start seeing signs of gyno? Not everyday, no matter what, like I was told? Saved me even more. once agian, thanks muscleworm

 

[Chip Bronson]

Thanks bro, yeah I'd rather be safe than sorry. I just didn't know if my figures were correct and if thats what the going price was for nolva. thanks, you just saved me some money. Plus I take it that your not suppose to start using it til you start seeing signs of gyno? Not everyday, no matter what, like I was told? Saved me even more. once agian, thanks muscleworm

anytime bro. good luck.

 

[vegas]

Hey bros got a question on nolv. I've done two cycles before. Pyramids. This time I'm running it straight through for 10-12 wks. Ena.500mg/wk
and EQ 400mg/wk. I've never used anite's but I thought I better on this one. My question is, does this look right?
10weeks = 70 days,
40mg/day nolv. x 70 days = 2800mg
Nolva comes in 10mg tabs, 30 tabs to pkg. = 300 mg for $45
The way I figure it I'm going to need atleast 9 pkgs at $45 a piece.
Thats f***ing over $400 just for nolva. Twice as much as what I spent on the stuff thats going to make me grow.
Am I lookin at this right?
thanks muscleworm

The following taken from a previous post by skywalk.......


Next thing I want to say is your use of nolvadex during the cycle. Nolva is a bad choice, and let me tell you why in laymans terms:
Nolva competes with the estrogen receptors and in so doing it 'blocks off' most of the receptor sites so the actual estrogen can't exert their negative sides on your body. What happens? well for one, your body still aromatises the AAS and you still have a flood of estrogen floating around in your body. Why put up with this when you can prevent aromatisation in the first place, so there's more unaltered gear to make you grow?
Next, once you get off nolva, you will 'unblock' these estrogen receptor sites and you're suddenly assulted with a tidal wave of estrogen. Not a good scenario.
Also, nolva has been reported in numerous texts that i've read, to be antagonistic towards any cycles where the goal is anabolism. in effect, you'll be limiting your gains. To what degree is unknown, as every person is unique.
lastly, you'll save a lot more money if you bought arimidex and took that all the way through, as opposed to nolva all the way through. arimidex is dirt cheap if you know the right sources. If you cant afford it, dont do the cycle. it's that simple. I know you dont need to reminded about how bad estrogen is for your body.....makes you store fat and look like a blob, increases your blood pressure, causes ventricular hypertrophy, can cause kidney failure, makes you grow some nice, womanly breasts, etc...the list goes on. This is your first cycle and we EXPECT you to be going into it fully armed with your ancillaries, for you don't know your genetic predesposition for gyno. Why take chances?

Skywalk

 

[MUSCLEWORM]

I appreciate the info. But are you saying Im not running enough EQ or Enathate? My other cycles were a pyramid style. Basically only lasting 7wks, 8 at the most. The most test I shot during the middle two weeks, which was the peak, was 600mg/wk and 500deca. I gained a little over 20 - 25 lbs.Only lost 6-8 lbs after 4 or 5 months until I screwed up my elbow. But, thats beside the point. I figured me changing the length and keeping the gear steady would reward me w/ better gains instead of just jumping up the gear. What happened to the phrase "keep it simple, stupid"? More gear doesn't always mean more gains. Which is why I chose EQ because it increases the appetite. Also, if the nolvadex is so bad then why are people using it and advising the use of it? I've never had to use anit-e's. But, this cycle is different so I thought I better have something and this is what I was advised to use by the good bros on this board. I don't know if your busting my balls saying I'm not doing it right or what. Thats why I posted my reasoning for amounts and type of gear I'm goin to use. I do appreciate the info. I keep it in mind for next time.

MUSCLEWORM

 

[crewboss]

bro i think vegas misread your drug measurements. he's right about the nolva, arimidex is better, check out liquidresearch's l-dex. crew

 

[vegas]

bro i think vegas misread your drug measurements. he's right about the nolva, arimidex is better, check out liquidresearch's l-dex. crew

Good catch Crewboss.....I have corrected the post...thanks....Vegas