No more nandrolone for me

That comment about the cocaine is the only reason I'm following this thread lol but ya it was a side point in a very long msg. Deca must be the problem, not the cocaine lol
As a former recreational drug user, I don't think people are aware about the long lasting effects of these drugs for many people. Yes, the acute, stimulant effects of cocaine are under 1 hour, but regular use drives you crazy.
 
As a former recreational drug user, I don't think people are aware about the long lasting effects of these drugs for many people. Yes, the acute, stimulant effects of cocaine are under 1 hour, but regular use drives you crazy.
Agreed. I had a feckless period in my 20’s in which I heavily abused alcohol and the devil’s dandruff. I had become a different person even when I wasn’t drunk & high, and I didn’t realize it until I got sober.
 
period in my 20’s in which I heavily abused alcohol and the devil’s dandruff.
I’m not surprised so many of us hear had our run with various abuses and addictions. Personally I strive for moderation but sometimes that ocd devil gives me a nudge. I try to justify it as a healthier addiction to partake in. Definitely don’t want it manifesting in other areas of my life.
 
I’m taking a bupropion/dextromethorphan mix and one of the interesting side effects is that other psychoactive meds don’t affect me as much. Every now and then I see a couple of old friends who enjoy THC, and they’ll talk me into a gummy or whatever, and it kind of rolls right off me except for the hunger. I haven’t noticed any negative mental sides from any AAS compound so far, though I haven’t run Tren long term yet so I’m sure there’s some surprise waiting for me there. Pramipexole worked the same way when I took it.

I’m definitely not suggesting that my fellow travelers on the anabolic journey self-prescribe psych meds as a prophylaxis against the Nandrolone blues if they don’t otherwise need them. And, for example, bupropion can cause anxiety on its own. But on the other hand, they prescribe it to help people quit smoking. So I guess I’m not NOT recommending that anybody experiencing mental sides at least research that sort of thing if they can’t just switch steroids to resolve the issue.

Hell, we take caber to keep our nips mild, and get a few more rounds in the bedroom before the refractory period kicks in, but dopamine receptor agonists like caber and prami are far scarier than little old bupropion/wellbutrin. Look up DAWS - not a fun time. Prami and caber can also cause compulsive behaviors like gambling, sex, and spending. That’s what I blame my watch, knife, and AAS collections on if my wife asks. And people are taking those like they’re Tylenol.

So I guess my point is that if we’re doing one or two or three unwise and reckless polypharmaceutical things, what’s the harm in a fourth? (in b4 combinatorial math appears)
Don't get me wrong I've partaken in quite a few things in my younger days but less is more in the AAS community. Prami, caber, bromo, p5p shouldn't ever even be needed in a bodybuilding context. Get your estrogen under control:


What's the harm in adding a 4th? Well it depends. Could kill you depending what it is. Your post just makes me think you are very young and still have that invisible feeling where nothing could hurt you, or oh that won't happen to me, etc. I had it until my mid to late 20s
 
Don’t tell the guy who likes putting drugs in his nose about wellbutrin. Buddy just needs a coloring book and some double dutch
 
What's the harm in adding a 4th? Well it depends. Could kill you depending what it is. Your post just makes me think you are very young and still have that invisible feeling where nothing could hurt you, or oh that won't happen to me, etc. I had it until my mid to late 20s
Well, that’s very flattering (?), but I’m in my 50’s and quite aware of my mortality, especially lying here 12 hours post hernia repair. A determined 10 year old could take me out.

The post was perhaps a bit too tongue-in-cheek. Plainer version: psych meds may indeed have some value in managing side effects of AAS. People in this community (not me!) take some very powerful unprescribed psych meds already to manage physical sides (e.g., hyperprolactinemia). If you read what I wrote, it is very much not singing the praises of those meds.

It goes without saying — though I did allude to it — that preventing a side effect is always better than medicating it. That said, I know that many, many people here do experience some sides from AAS use, and most of them do take some supplements or medications to manage them. Nobody is giving up AAS at their first side effects. That’s just not representative of the risk tolerance of any AAS user, by definition. So it’s about where one draws the line.

Bupropion by itself isn’t going to kill anybody if they stay within the established safe dose range. At extremely high dosages of 600+ mg/day they would have increased risk of seizures. Very few antidepressants come with acute risk of death when used in the established therapeutic dose range. That’s why they hand them out like candy. Hell, they give out bupropion for weight loss, too

Sudden, unmanaged depression does kill people, though. Altered mental states can ruin lives. “Divorce in a bottle”. Anxiety is a crippling condition. Or to get back to this poster’s extracurriculars: would it be better for him to take cocaine + adderall, or something much safer for stimulatory effects, like modafinil or bupropion? The easy answer is “don’t do any of that because it all comes with risk”, but then none of us would be here at all.

Another example: a large number of people talk about taking tren and suffering the rather deleterious mental sides that come with it. Not just once, but over and over. They do not simply avoid tren as, to them, there is no substitute. If there is a way to prevent or reduce those sides at minimal risk, that would be a net harm reduction. I’m not saying there necessarily is, but I’ve read of several people already on psych meds saying they seem to be insulated from mental sides from nandrolone, for example. Similar experiences to mine. The N is very small, obviously. Maybe depressive/anxious people are immune, or maybe the meds are beneficial, or maybe it’s all just coincidence. Worth keeping in mind, though.
 
Don’t tell the guy who likes putting drugs in his nose about wellbutrin. Buddy just needs a coloring book and some double dutch

For once I don’t quite understand one of your posts. :-(

One funny point: Wellbutrin can be helpful in the treatment of addiction to some nose candies. All I’m saying is, I’m a Wellbutrin sales rep and I’ve got to make my quarterly numbers, hit me up. 10% off with code VLSNEEDSANEWBOAT
 
For once I don’t quite understand one of your posts. :-(

One funny point: Wellbutrin can be helpful in the treatment of addiction to some nose candies. All I’m saying is, I’m a Wellbutrin sales rep and I’ve got to make my quarterly numbers, hit me up. 10% off with code VLSNEEDSANEWBOAT
It’s known as prison cocaine among the unfreedom’d population. Hits like dollar store cocaine and has a very similar numbing sensation if taken nasally. Don’t ask me how I know!
 
Oh boy.. what have I done.. lol..
I’ll try to clean the mess little bit
I have prescriptions for everything and I have my own so called “pharmacy” that starts with regular supplements and ends with morphine etc.. I’m not an addict and I don’t use drugs nor medicine randomly but I know how to use things for my own benefit this topic is about that nandrolone fked me for no good reason out of the blue for the second time.. previously I thought it was GH as I was blasting 10 ius daily
We know that nandrolone plays with dopamine and serotonin etc therefore one can add ssri/or Wellbutrin to combat those nasty effects and continue the cycle without feeling like a mopet this cycle I didn’t use anything except test deca npp tren caber and aromasin
Caber was added due to high prolactin and aromasin was added due to high e2 that I’m not sensitive to but it leads to high prolactin..
I use adderall on and off when I need it and it takes me 90 days to bring my head to base line I have never mixed adderall with anything except a cup of coffee .. I don’t use preworkouts energy drinks etc when I’m on trt I can allow myself once a week or once a months randomly little bit of flower as pre it does the job amazingly as someone who has adhd it actually calms the brain and allows better focus in the gym same goes for adderall
You guys took a “fly” and made it an elephant! lol..
I’m off adderall 6 months
“flower” 4 months

Oh and yeah in prison they sniff Wellbutrin and junky’s actually inject the pill IV it leads to horrible effects due to the solvents in the pill and they actually lose limbs especially in Canada I heard it’s a favorite street drug
 

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