No more deca

[Dentdude]

So I’ve come to the conclusion that deca/npp are not for me. I mean I absolutely love them but even at low mg’s I turn into such a zombie. Zero emotion and so detached that it’s just not worth it. I mean it works for me but I’ll be divorced if I continue forsure.
Cycle history
1- 500 mg test 12 weeks
2-600 test 300 deca 16 weeks anavar as well but can’t remember mgs
3- 300 test 300 tren 12 week
4- test deca 700/350
5-test tren mast cut 300 200 300 ( best cycle as far as mood sides etc) even in a deficit I felt the best here
6- my last cycle test 500 primo 200 npp 200. E2 around 30. Quit this cycle at 10 weeks felt great, probably needed more npp because gains were slow and almost non existent at 4800 calories. Probably cause I’m used to deca and adding water weight quickly but I was adding slow size but also pretty dry at the same time.

Like I said I’m trying to keep adding size but deca and npp are just not a fit anymore so open to suggestions. Thinking Eq but so many mixed reviews any help appreciated

I’m 6” 205 body fat idk but I’ll post pics.

 

[Dentdude]

 

[bananafeet]

Any androgen can cause changes in mental status.

Nandralone reduces dopamine transport and creates a depressive phenotype in rats.

As with anything in the brain it's hard to nail down a cause. But people frequently report adhedonia and depression with nandralone. Dopamine agonists like cabergoline can be used but they carry their own risks.

I experienced anxiety recently and I'm currently on Sertraline and Mirtazapine. It's working quite well for me.

 

[Zbignew]

I'm on your side, OP. Both deca and tren turn me into an unstable basket case. They're just not for me.

 

[Knzgear]

Interesting read, I've run 500 test, 300 Deca, 300 Boldenone for about 6 months now and no mood changes to report at all. Stepping up to 600 test 400 Deca, 300 Boldenone 8 weeks out from my next strongman comp which is in a weeks time.

 

[xrayphoton13]

1g test, 400-600mg mast, (25mg dbol/25mg anadrol or 50mg anadrol if you need a push)
1g test, 500mg eq, orals if you need a push
1-1.5g test, orals if needed

 

[Jojoejoe]

I've also found that Deca can mess with my head, turning me into a total zombie with zero emotions. It's just not worth the emotional detachment, even if the gains are good

I'm thinking of trying EQ too, but I'm also seeing mixed reviews, so I'm hesitant

Maybe dialing back the dose could help, but it sounds like you're already running it pretty low. Have you tried any dopamine agonists like cabergoline to counter the effects ?

 

[Guti20]

So I’ve come to the conclusion that deca/npp are not for me. I mean I absolutely love them but even at low mg’s I turn into such a zombie. Zero emotion and so detached that it’s just not worth it. I mean it works for me but I’ll be divorced if I continue forsure.
Cycle history
1- 500 mg test 12 weeks
2-600 test 300 deca 16 weeks anavar as well but can’t remember mgs
3- 300 test 300 tren 12 week
4- test deca 700/350
5-test tren mast cut 300 200 300 ( best cycle as far as mood sides etc) even in a deficit I felt the best here
6- my last cycle test 500 primo 200 npp 200. E2 around 30. Quit this cycle at 10 weeks felt great, probably needed more npp because gains were slow and almost non existent at 4800 calories. Probably cause I’m used to deca and adding water weight quickly but I was adding slow size but also pretty dry at the same time.

Like I said I’m trying to keep adding size but deca and npp are just not a fit anymore so open to suggestions. Thinking Eq but so many mixed reviews any help appreciated

I’m 6” 205 body fat idk but I’ll post pics.

Yes, Deca and other nandrolone compounds are known to impact dopamine regulation. I personally don’t experience that issue, probably because I already have dopamine regulation challenges—as someone diagnosed with ADHD three separate times in my 28 years, I’m no stranger to that. Feeling flat or unmotivated could be a form of anhedonia, which is basically a reduced ability to feel pleasure. If you’re considering using nandrolone again, something like daily P-5-P or L-Dopa might help offset that effect. As dopamine regulators (natural)

 

[Guti20]

I've also found that Deca can mess with my head, turning me into a total zombie with zero emotions. It's just not worth the emotional detachment, even if the gains are good

I'm thinking of trying EQ too, but I'm also seeing mixed reviews, so I'm hesitant

Maybe dialing back the dose could help, but it sounds like you're already running it pretty low. Have you tried any dopamine agonists like cabergoline to counter the effects ?

It’s a dopamine thing. Low drive for accomplishment, feeling flat emotionally, etc. the way to supplement that is look into how you can influence your dopamine in a positive way. That will help immensely.

 

[Elektrobot]

Interesting read, I've run 500 test, 300 Deca, 300 Boldenone for about 6 months now and no mood changes to report at all. Stepping up to 600 test 400 Deca, 300 Boldenone 8 weeks out from my next strongman comp which is in a weeks time.

I've also found that Deca can mess with my head, turning me into a total zombie with zero emotions. It's just not worth the emotional detachment, even if the gains are good

I'm thinking of trying EQ too, but I'm also seeing mixed reviews, so I'm hesitant

Maybe dialing back the dose could help, but it sounds like you're already running it pretty low. Have you tried any dopamine agonists like cabergoline to counter the effects ?

Guess what you two have in common

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[Elektrobot]

So I’ve come to the conclusion that deca/npp are not for me. I mean I absolutely love them but even at low mg’s I turn into such a zombie. Zero emotion and so detached that it’s just not worth it. I mean it works for me but I’ll be divorced if I continue forsure.
Cycle history
1- 500 mg test 12 weeks
2-600 test 300 deca 16 weeks anavar as well but can’t remember mgs
3- 300 test 300 tren 12 week
4- test deca 700/350
5-test tren mast cut 300 200 300 ( best cycle as far as mood sides etc) even in a deficit I felt the best here
6- my last cycle test 500 primo 200 npp 200. E2 around 30. Quit this cycle at 10 weeks felt great, probably needed more npp because gains were slow and almost non existent at 4800 calories. Probably cause I’m used to deca and adding water weight quickly but I was adding slow size but also pretty dry at the same time.

Like I said I’m trying to keep adding size but deca and npp are just not a fit anymore so open to suggestions. Thinking Eq but so many mixed reviews any help appreciated

I’m 6” 205 body fat idk but I’ll post pics.

Thats a lot of drugs for the result that you have from them

What does your training look like?