No Kerry Flip-Flop.

[Quasimoto]

Man you guys will believe anything. "However we cannot ignore their (IRAQ)threat anymore"..give me a fucking break KTCK...we have now created a real valid threat by invading Iraq and our post invasion politics, where none existed before .

Everyone wasnt saying that the WMD existed. The Human intel ( david kayz ,hans Blix, american agencies suchs as the FBI) in the region was saying that there were NO WMD, HE WASNT A THREAT TO HIS NEIGHBORS !

Republicans follow without question. Republicans are not natural leaders, because you arent appealing to the masses. The majority in this country are democrats. They , much to my dismay, arent as motivated as the bible banging, anti-gay, pro-death penalty, republicans are. It is your responsibility to be critical in your thinking as an American .

 

[Quasimoto]

A person is not born to terrorism Frosty, they are "called to arms". Think of American history and the most famous terrorist insurgent in our own history, George Washington.

I would have preferred we not make Islamist feel like they were under attack and had to defend their religion , other muslims and their homeland in the first place. Had we not invaded a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, this would be the case.

In the scenario you pose, that as long as they are there in Iraq fighting, they arent here in the USA. You are implying that a perpetually never ending war is necessary, and by that implication, agreeing with Orwell that war isnt to be won or lost, only waged. You may be a democrat at heart after all.

 

[Quasimoto]

What did Bin Laden have to do with the Iraq invasion ? Why are we not concentrating our efforts on Bin Laden instead of fighting off the new terrorists we have created in Iraq.

Back to my base point, if we hadnt invaded Iraq, we could have focused on the real problem .

 

[KTCKSports]

Believe anything huh? Well I normally I tend to believe what the CIA says, Blair's boys in Britain, Putin's boys in Russia. And even that slick slimebag Bill Clinton believed Huessin had WMD. I think all of these groups that I mentioned, with the exception of Clinton has more credibility then those groups you mentioned. If Bush is given all of this data, why on god's green earth should we sit back with our hands down our pants and do nothing?????????????????????

Come on Quasi, get off your liberal shine box. Wake up and smell the coffee my friend. What the hell would it take for you to invade Iraq? Jesus, you are so blinded by your stupid gd party. Even many democrats including your boy Kerry thought Suddam did! This is such a stupid fucking issue I can't believe I am wasting my breath.

K-

Man you guys will believe anything. "However we cannot ignore their (IRAQ)threat anymore"..give me a fucking break KTCK...we have now created a real valid threat by invading Iraq and our post invasion politics, where none existed before .

Everyone wasnt saying that the WMD existed. The Human intel ( david kayz ,hans Blix, american agencies suchs as the FBI) in the region was saying that there were NO WMD, HE WASNT A THREAT TO HIS NEIGHBORS !

 

[fastass]

Because after 9/11 we were fed up with terrorism and thanks to that terrible day, the US had no other choice but to fight terrorism head on. Like Airbone already explained, everybody thought that Saddam had WMD. The United States is the sole leader of the world- like it or not. If we were as irrelvant as France, then I would have no problem with ignoring what goes on in the Middle East. However we cannot ignore their threat anymore.

So it's OK for you to sit back and watch this evil dictator, a man that would make Hitler look normal, just pile up these weapons and allow him to attack again?? Not only are the Kuwait's of the world are threatened, but so is our country.

K-

According the the commission report, " There is no link between Iraq and al qaeda"

 

[KTCKSports]

I wouldn't doubt if Saddam didn't have a direct cause to 9-11. However he is a terrorist and more then anyone threatened the peace of the Middle East and potentially us back here.

There is no link between the bloods and the crips but they are both still pieces of shit that both need to be destroyed.

K-

According the the commission report, " There is no link between Iraq and al qaeda"

 

[AirBorne]

A person is not born to terrorism Frosty, they are "called to arms". Think of American history and the most famous terrorist insurgent in our own history, George Washington.



wow

 

[Quasimoto]

You know, when I first read this I had no clue what it meant. I thought it was a reference to something else since I didn't think anyone would be calling Washington a terrorist, but now I realize what he means.

Quasi, you're an idiot. Fuck you. Go move to France you stupid fucking idiot. Go live your little socialist dream over there. It will make this country better.

Whaaaa ? I think you misunderstood what the intention of that statement was. I dont want to live in france, i only want to visit there. You cant drink the water there anyway.

To the british monarchy, GW was an insurgent and a terrorist. But history is written by the winners. You are the fucking idiot if you didnt understand the meaning of my statement...read it in its full context and you will understand. I think you had it right the first time.

 

[Quasimoto]

How dare you call George Washington, the father of our country, a terrorist insurgent. Who the fuck do you think you are. You think you can just get away with making such a salacious statement.

George Washington was a commissioned officer, serving as the commander in chief of a uniformed army. He offered full quarter to his enemies and he didn't go around beheading Tories. I'm of a good mind to fly to Oregon, throw you in a duffel bag and take you back to fucking Canada.

HAHA, you are such a fucking shill Windigo, you sicken me actually. I hope you fly to oregon and TRY to put me in a duffle bag you fucking prick. I'll pay half your air-fare. You are a usefull fool , but in this case only a fool.

To the BRITS, Washington who was first commissioned by the british colonial army was a fucking insurgent, a terrorist and an overall pain in the ass as the leader of the rebel army. Technically since he was a a British colonial army officer he was also a treasoner. But again you leave this part out either because you are stupid and dont know it, or because you are trying to steer your argument your way. Neither of which i will allow without my $.02 being added.

The Vietnamese offered full quarter to their enemies too as did Japan. Why not mention them ? You invoke this trying to slant the week-of-mind and impressionable ( and you got one sheep to follow you ) like the Pubbies all do.

I hold GW in as high of regard as anyone does, but he was, what he was. You can try to be a history revisionist all you want, you are fucking wrong today mr Debater. You'll lose this one..and i suspect you know that.


KTCK -The democrats arent my party. I dont have any party affiliation, you guys know that.

 

[KTCKSports]

That is hilarious. You hold W in high regard?? The twenty-somthing negative threads you started on W. really doesn't demonstrate that. Nice try though.

And let me get this straight, you have no party affiliation? Why is it that you liberals are always ashamed to be identified as Demos? Well actually I would be embarrassed too.

K-

I hold GW in as high of regard as anyone does, but he was, what he was. You can try to be a history revisionist all you want, you are fucking wrong today mr Debater. You'll lose this one..and i suspect you know that.


KTCK -The democrats arent my party. I dont have any party affiliation, you guys know that.

 

[DAdams91982]

There is a reason they are called SPECIAL forces, because they arent your typical run-of-the-mill peon soldiers. They are trained for specific purposes that most regular soldiers cant or couldnt handle. They are simply a cut above the rest. I have the utmost respect for any special forces guys.

Im sorry but this post really erks me... There isnt a soilder out there.. that you can consider Run of the Mil or a Peon.

I think any other soilder out there other than myself would take offense to be called a peon because I am not special forces.

Adams

 

[Quasimoto]

That is hilarious. You hold W in high regard?? The twenty-somthing negative threads you started on W. really doesn't demonstrate that. Nice try though.

And let me get this straight, you have no party affiliation? Why is it that you liberals are always ashamed to be identified as Demos? Well actually I would be embarrassed too.

K-

GW is george washington not george bush, you tool. i will respond to the rest of the strings in this thread, when i get to work .

 

[Quasimoto]

I hardly have the inclination nor can i see a reason to justify anything to you Tree Dwelling Phantom Menace. I meant what i said now and when i typed it. If you haven't the capacity to understand it, or more likely, are trying to spin these facts ( as they are facts ) to suit your own agenda. You may be able to talk a guy like Frosty by proxie into thinking your way, but you can't do that to a person who thinks on his own.

You think you know more about the revolutionary war than i do, Well my dad can beat up your dad. There now, an equally ignorant statement to rebutt your ignorant statement. You know nothing of me, nothing about my education or intellectual depth.

Swing and a miss Ghost man,.......YOU'RE OUT !!!!!!

 

[Bob Smith]

Im sorry but this post really erks me... There isnt a soilder out there.. that you can consider Run of the Mil or a Peon.

I think any other soilder out there other than myself would take offense to be called a peon because I am not special forces.

Adams

What I was saying is that SFs are in that position for a reason. Not every soldier is smart enough, talented enough, or discplined enough to become SF. That doesnt mean every non-SF soldier is a moron. But special forces are, as I said in my original post, a cut above the rest.

 

[Quasimoto]

Windigo - He was an insurgent, he was a treasoner as he was a commissioned officer in the british colonial army. Like I wrote earlier he was a royal pain in the ass to the British . Because he and his men wore the same coats ( uniformed as you call it ) hardly negates the fact that they were under the command of the british until the decided to liberate themselves.

If your definition of a terrorist is a person who kills unarmed non miltary persons while not offering the quarters, then again, you would lose an argument with me cuase i would remind you of the native americans that were indiscriminatly wiped out without regard for age, sex or affiliation . Would the American soldiers be terrorists in that scenario ?

You are obviously to jaded to understand the point i am making. SO let me spell it out for you.

GW was "called to arms" by the events committed against the people living in what is now the USA, to fight against the very institution to which he took an oath declaring his loyalty to its people and to its orders. He didnt harbor any deep hatred initially against the British until until a bad situation escalated to the point where he was fed up, he rose up and led the fight against them. If he'd lost the war and we had stayed under british rule..how do you think the history books would have seen him and the othersoldiers, FARMERS and businessmen today ?

I am grateful and proud of what the men and women of the revolutionary war did to break away from the monarchy. That said i am certain that a number of Iraqi's are grateful and proud of what some of their countrymen , that you call terrorists, are doing in repsonse to the American invasion.

I can break this down into baby talk if you need me to. Poo,Pah pah te te..Funny how the anectdotal little jabs you have used against other people come back to haunt you, the one who by handle is haunting others ?

 

[Bob Smith]

i would remind you of the native americans that were indiscriminatly wiped out without regard for age, sex or affiliation .

I hope you dont think for a second that the Indians were passive, law abiding people who were calm, non-aggressive people.

 

[Quasimoto]

I guess to Quasi doing things like building a fort for your uniformed army and defending or attacking against another uniformed army is the same as flying planes into civilian buildings to kill as many civilians as possible to cause terror because they want to take over the world with their fascist warped views. Either that or having armies fire at each other on a battlefield is the same as taking over a school and killing hundreds of children and parents.

What an idiot.

Do not put words into my mouth frosty, i said nothing of the 9/11 attacks, or of the chechen school situation. I am wasting my breath trying to explain that to you which you are too dense to understand. I am specifically talking about the insurgents in iraq picking up guns to fight against the US and Allied forces in the theatre. If you are too stupid to understand that..thats the education systems fault in the area you live in.

Windigo knows what i am saying whether he'll admit it or not. I am not sure about you. I think the funiest thing about this is that you didnt know you were supposed to be mad until windigo told you that you were supposed to be. You are a follower, a foot soldier in the republican army, and thats ok. General Windigo needs privates, which is appropriate for you ,since you're a dick . .

 

[Quasimoto]

I hope you dont think for a second that the Indians were passive, law abiding people who were calm, non-aggressive people.

Never insinuated that for a second Bob. I know that wasnt the case.

 

[Quasimoto]

Private Frosty - They are attacking our civilians, as we attacked their entire country, including civilians, remember "shock and awe" ? According to the Red Cross over 30,000 Iraqi's were killed , including many women children and non military men . Many innocent civilians dude... Dont paint the rosey picture that we are always justified in our actions, and they arent ever. They are fighting back Private Frosty. What would you do ?

 

[Quasimoto]

I am not back tracking General Windigo, Commander in chief of the army of dicks, and like the army commercial, army of one ( frosty is the one ).

I am well aware of what i said, and of what I meant. They are one in the same. You are the one who insisted on including the fact he was a commissioned uniformed officer into your argument. So you helped me show he was a treasoner.

By definition a terrorist is one who uses terror as a weapon, especially as a political weapon. GW and the rest of the revolutionary militia, used guerilla warfare, instead of the battlefield norm of rank and file . This singly caused the British to completey change tactics, they did this out of necessity and fear of disproportionate loss of life.

Windigo - You cant disallow me anything, as the rights i have to speak freely are granted to me under the constitution. I went to war for my country and for the constitution. I gave you the right to lead Private Frosty in your assault on intelligence. While you find me an inpugner, i find you a jackass. You cant win this argument with me, the facts are on my side. You called down the thunder, so now you got it.

Were you in the military Windigo ? I bet you weren't...