My Tren Ace Experience With Blood Work Changes.

[Grey Spartan]

So are we all 40+ in this thread? I’m now 50.

I'm over 55. Last time I ran Tren, it was 150mg a week split into 3 doses a week, along with 350mg Test C. This was a 12 week cycle. First time I ran it I was 55 @ 100mg a week split into 2 doses with 240mg of Test C for 10 weeks. This dos not me YOU should do it but, I didn't die or have some kind of toxic or mental breakdown.

I know the SAFEST option is to not bother, but I mean, it’s just sittin there being lonely!

Never let your Tren get lonely its bad luck.

 

[laclark89]

So are we all 40+ in this thread? I’m now 50. Took a year off of all gear and now back on 120 test/wk (in castor for slower release). I have a vial of tren left and maybe enough raw for another vial. Was thinking about running it as I’m getting back into the gym slowly but was thinking my age was a preventative factor. Thing is, I never ran tren more than 5 weeks, and never high doses. My bloods changed similarly to OPs.

I know the SAFEST option is to not bother, but I mean, it’s just sittin there being lonely!

Agreed. My wife was like "I like you on that Tren stuff, your sweet" Lol. It’s all about recognizing your insanity, and not letting it show to the ones you care about.

Absolutely

It all started with tren and look at it now.
Lol.
Didn't I say you always bring your own cool spin?
Lol.

Leave that hammer alone, tomorrow.
Hope you heal quick

lol I try.

It feels 10x better already. I tend to heal up pretty quick. The 3iu gh and 250 test I’m on helps a bit I’m sure.

 

[iris]

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Absolutely

lol I try.

It feels 10x better already. I tend to heal up pretty quick. The 3iu gh and 250 test I’m on helps a bit I’m sure.

You are a star, you always bring some sparkle and wit.

Excellent that your thumb is better.
You deffo need it back to 100% quick, for what you do.
Thank you for the update.
It's always super cool to see you, querido.

I hope you will start another one of your brilliant threads.

 

[malfeasance]

So are we all 40+ in this thread? I’m now 50. Took a year off of all gear and now back on 120 test/wk (in castor for slower release). I have a vial of tren left and maybe enough raw for another vial. Was thinking about running it as I’m getting back into the gym slowly but was thinking my age was a preventative factor. Thing is, I never ran tren more than 5 weeks, and never high doses. My bloods changed similarly to OPs.

I know the SAFEST option is to not bother, but I mean, it’s just sittin there being lonely!

The part of your post that sticks out to me is "I'm getting back into the gym slowly."

Wait until you are back in the gym full on kicking ass. Then, when your progress grinds to a halt, maybe reconsider whether it is right for you then.

 

[tsantsa]

The part of your post that sticks out to me is "I'm getting back into the gym slowly."

Wait until you are back in the gym full on kicking ass. Then, when your progress grinds to a halt, maybe reconsider whether it is right for you then.

Oh yeah for sure. I haven’t gotten the swing of it just yet. I’m still dialing in my diet and my time management.

 

[TUTfan]

How would you define an advanced bodybuilder?
Should this also apply to other substances?

Simple son, who you are not. Win a show, compete at the national level and be in the top 5.

When you get there son let me know,

 

[TUTfan]

And here we go again. How about test only for hypogonadal patients? Equipoise for horses and why stop there, creatine only for natties lol.

Go back to reddit son, your crazy is so sad.

 

[DECLAN]

Go back to reddit son, your crazy is so sad.

Lol, I probably could be your dad. Sorry, I am old, but go on.

Yeah, you’re right that’s what I always preach if you don’t compete why do you do steroids, what are you a loser?

 

[malfeasance]

Simple son, who you are not. Win a show, compete at the national level and be in the top 5.

When you get there son let me know,

Maybe daughter, not son? My understanding is that iris is female.

 

[Primoisthebest]

Tren is just another drug and another tool in the bag. I’m 60 and have used it intermittently for many years. My first time was Parabolan in 1985, so yeah nearly 40 years ago. Like most drugs, everyone responds differently and the best way to find out is exactly like Grey Spartan has done. Personally, I have few tren sides outside of occasional sleep issues, but even that is sporadic.

I don’t think tren is limited to competitive bodybuilding at all. Anyone pushing their physique can potentially benefit from Tren use in their cycles.

 

[tsantsa]

Well now that I see how I respond after a couple years, I think I’ll add tren in next cycle.

This time I introduces primo and test at 300. Primo is about 150 so 2:1 test to primo. Does absolutely nothing for my e2 and holy god I aromatize a lot more than I did just 2 years ago…but now that I know that, I’ll drop back down to try levels and get some conditioning going and see how it goes

 

[Slowww]

For me the only bloodwork metrics that are affected are ALT/AST. Kidney, inflammation, cardiac stuff, and other liver related things don’t show any sign of damage. The ALT/AST always returns to normal in a month.
Actually outside of ALT/AST, I can have very clean bloodwork with 300 tren a as long as I keep my diet, cardio, steps, and blood pressure in check.
I’ve run tren several times and my bloodwork now actually looks better by many metrics than when I first started gear just because of the consistency of the diet and cardio (previous coaches didn’t have me do cardio while bulking).

My wife and I have a love hate relationship with tren. She hates it and I love it. That being said the last time I ran tren a month ago, she didn’t notice I was on until she saw me pinning in the living room, but it was actually my last shot.

 

[bigboy420]

Tren is only for advanced bodybuilders, pro or top national level, post pics, tell us about the shows you have won.

@BigTomJ @Jin23
What are opinions of you two for this subject?
Is tren for lifestyle users with average genes stupid or does it have a place for us gymrats?

 

[BigTomJ]

@BigTomJ @Jin23
What are opinions of you two for this subject?
Is tren for lifestyle users with average genes stupid or does it have a place for us gymrats?

If you want to use it, go ahead.
My opinions don't dictate anyone else's risk aversion.

However, my opinion and risk tolerance says that it's not a good choice for most people, it's benefits to negatives ratio just doesn't pan out. I don't use tren ever except for contest prep.
You'll make just as good progress and do it healthier and feeling better with something other than tren.

I think people planning on using tren should take the time to clearly figure out what their goal is, what level of risk/negative health outcomes they are willing to accept, and find out why they want to run tren in the first place.

 

[Primoisthebest]

I used tren first time 30 years ago and many since. I think both positives and negatives for tren are overblown. It is a strong drug but so are halotestin, anadrol and many others depending on dose. That is the key. Like all these ped’s tren effects are dose dependent and compared to most the effects from tren happen at lower doses, both good and bad. I think everyone who’s into using ped’s should try it once. Most objectively will find the myth is more fable than fact.

 

[Jin23]

@BigTomJ @Jin23
What are opinions of you two for this subject?
Is tren for lifestyle users with average genes stupid or does it have a place for us gymrats?

No. Same goes for nandrolone.

 

[Jin23]

I think people planning on using tren should take the time to clearly figure out what their goal is, what level of risk/negative health outcomes they are willing to accept, and find out why they want to run tren in the first place.

Problem is, most people are not educated enough - especially in regards to neurobiology - to be able to make a truly informed decision. If that wasn't the case, nobody would use them (or probably any aas for that matter).

 

[Sampei]

No. Same goes for nandrolone.

Why nandrolone too? For the same neurotoxicity?

 

[bigboy420]

If you want to use it, go ahead.

Hell nah, im a random guy on TRT with shit genes whos not even bodybuilding atm but I really enjoy researching drugs and gathering knowledge.

And my thinking is using tren for lifesyle cycling goes into the junky category same as someone railing coke or hard drugs. Its not needed.

Something like testosterone I dont categorize there becouse it can improve overall health dramatically.

Also isnt every person genetically limited on the amount of muscle tissue he can hold so isnt using something like tren (harsh compounds) completely pointless and useless in the long run except for temporary visual boost?
Example: if you run testosterone for 20 years and upping the dosage as you get bigger you will hit your genetic limit.

Thoughts?

 

[BigTomJ]

Hell nah, im a random guy on TRT with shit genes whos not even bodybuilding atm but I really enjoy researching drugs and gathering knowledge.

And my thinking is using tren for lifesyle cycling goes into the junky category same as someone railing coke or hard drugs. Its not needed.

Something like testosterone I dont categorize there becouse it can improve overall health dramatically.

Also isnt every person genetically limited on the amount of muscle tissue he can hold so isnt using something like tren (harsh compounds) completely pointless and useless in the long run except for temporary visual boost?
Example: if you run testosterone for 20 years and upping the dosage as you get bigger you will hit your genetic limit.

Thoughts?

my entire point is im not anyones dad, so my personal philosophy doesnt extend to anyone else's risk acceptance.

yes there will be a limit at some point in time, size, dose that you will not progress further without increasing dose, when you can no longer safely and sustainably increase your dose you have reached your personal ceiling.

in reality this applies to literally 0 people.