More help needed!

[thetribalmaster]

I posted the thread 'Dianabol and Deca' and found all the information very helpful but I have some concerns. I have looked hard at all the different TEST compounds out there but they all seem to carry massive side effects and finding it hard to chose which one. What would be the difference in gains if I used a TEST compared to Deca? I know that with AAS there is always the risk of side effects but want to keep them to a minimum (I suppose doent anyone!). I have the dianabol so am going to use that (am running the dianabol at 30mg for 6 weeks - possibly 4 weeks if that is the advise) but as I said before want to throw in an injectable. What are the chances of limp dick (and how long for) with Deca if using dianabol (using clomid post cycle and nolvadex during). If I was to add in a form of TEST at a low dossage what would be my best one for a short 6-8 (prefably 6) week cycle keeping sides effects to a minimum. What are the lieky side effcts of the form, and dosages of TEST you may suggest. I am not looking for massive gains of this one cylce just good reasonable gains.

I know there are loads of questions in this post but want to do this right,

Cheers guys for all your help

Ps If you can remember the other post I am 22, 5-11', 180llb, first cycle

 

[VDC]

The answers you seek are all subjective,,,Meaning that each person reacts differently to the substabces you mention,,,Some people can do all the Test they want with no sides(jb at cuttingedge for example),,,Others like myself get lumps just looking at a bottle of Test,,,Some will pack on more pounds with one aas than another person would,,,Do you see what I'm getting at,,,You have to experiment on yourself,,,All you can do is be prepared to deal with any sides that present themselves,,,I would suggest doing Test with the deca,,,At least 200mg/week of enanthate would be good,,,Have Nolva and arimidex in case of gyno,,,Consider using HCG during the cycle to help speed up recovery(500iu's ed every 2 weeks for 2 weeks or start it after the last shot of Deca and continue for 3 weeks while doing Clomid,,,VDC

 

[spookaroo]

The answers you seek are all subjective,,,Meaning that each person reacts differently to the substabces you mention,,,Some people can do all the Test they want with no sides(jb at cuttingedge for example),,,Others like myself get lumps just looking at a bottle of Test,,,Some will pack on more pounds with one aas than another person would,,,Do you see what I'm getting at,,,You have to experiment on yourself,,,All you can do is be prepared to deal with any sides that present themselves,,,I would suggest doing Test with the deca,,,At least 200mg/week of enanthate would be good,,,Have Nolva and arimidex in case of gyno,,,Consider using HCG during the cycle to help speed up recovery(500iu's ed every 2 weeks for 2 weeks or start it after the last shot of Deca and continue for 3 weeks while doing Clomid,,,VDC

Agreed....

 

[01dragonslayer]

First cycle?? I have to agree with VDC. Test/deca is the way to go bro. IMHO no cycle is complete without test. It is a great base for ANY cycle because of its synergistic properties. I would never even consider a cycle without test. Sides will vary from user to user. If your concerned about side effects bro, which is understandable, start off with a low dose cycle and see how your body reacts. Being your first cycle your probaly better off. Sexual disfunction('deca dick') shouldn't be a concern as long as your test dose exceeds your dose of deca. IMO I believe that dbol is one of the worst anabolics for side effects especially when it comes to stress on your liver. Its very heptoxic, it strongly converts to estrogen, and it can trigger serious acne(more so than test). Why else would you think that suggested doses last no longer than 4-5wks? I do agree that its excellent for 'kick starting' your cycle, but after discontinuance there is a considerable loss of strength and mass.