MOD SHRINE at EVO

@Seve some of there products at evo have fengugreek in it not unlike nugenix OTC testosterone boosts these seeds or leaflets are basically unproven to be effective in any way to boost anything let alone testosterone ,some also contain items like horny goat weed .Wikipedia some of there products ingredients then next ask your family doctor about them and see if you can get him to stop to laughing i gave mine some nugenix ( which contains Fengugreek ,which is just one of there products ingredients yes yes ) cause you know it said it would boost your libido so i tried it.I know i know dont everyone laugh at once .Basically my doctor said i might as well eat hay in the pasture i get same effect ..That being said maybe Evo has some high paid scientist that can say either wise about these products ..:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
No... Well maybe!

Bill Roberts touched based recently on RAD-140.

Could be a good prostate protector while on cycle.

mands

Even though SARMS (OSTRA in particular) have been involved in clinical trials over the past few years, they have yet to find a legitimate use in contemporary medical practice AND that speaks volumes about their utility as a PED or otherwise IMO.

For example the data on SARMS as potential prostate protectors is highly speculative based on published data IMO.

Moreover the dismissal of the Iron Mag Labs VS Nutrition.. case is also telling bc it appears an appeal to a higher court is unlikely, at least until the FDA rules on their "drug vs supplement" definition.

I mean would any Pharm company submit so readily if the product they developed was worth much more than inclusion as a mystery drug for supplement manufacturers, I think NOT!
 
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Just an update. I went back over to EVO to check a PM and I was banned.

You have been given a "TIME OUT" meaning you will need to explain yourself before you can be unbanned. Meanwhile, you cannot access other forums or post. Your IP is logged and your proxy is pass-through broken, you will not be able to access the full forum again until the moderators are satisfied with your behaviour.
WARNING: If you attempt to make alters and stir problems, we will post your IP (and your original IP not your proxy) on the open forum along with your IP trace location where you are located

Well, my official ban said I "Never" could be back on but then it sent me to Purgatory Home!

They can't even spell BEHAVIOR correctly. lol

mands
I got banned there too. I had fun getting banned though.
 
One things for sure if big Pharma isn't pursuing additional clinical trials to influence the FDA decision to classify SARMS as a drug, supplement "re-salers" are not going to do it.

Why, bc once a compound is ruled a SUPPLEMENT by the FDA the whole ballgame changes, and prospective consumers will be limited to the currently available data, with the overwhelming majority involving in-vitro assays, or in-vivo research on animal models, rodents in particular.

I searched far and wide for clinical trials on RAD-140 and couldn't locate ANY published CT research on this "SARM", not withstanding a few rodent studies and also noted darn near all of the data quoted by RAD-140 resellers sites was indirectly plagiarized BS or direct quotes from OSTRA studies!
 
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One things for sure if big Pharma isn't pursuing additional clinical trials to influence the FDA decision to classify SARMS as a drug, supplement "re-salers" are not going to do it.

Why, bc once a compound is ruled a SUPPLEMENT by the FDA the whole ballgame changes, and prospective consumers will be limited to the currently available data, with the overwhelming majority involving in-vitro assays, or in-vivo research on animal models, rodents in particular.

I searched far and wide for clinical trials on RAD-140 and couldn't locate ANY published CT research on this "SARM", not withstanding a few rodent studies and also noted darn near all of the data quoted by RAD-140 resellers sites was indirectly plagiarized BS or direct quotes from OSTRA studies!
I did find one study with primates that RAD-140 was administered for 29 days. Still looking for others.

mands
 
The problem is that people generally could easily get duped by the "science" behind all of these RCs/Chems. Even people who typically would see it coming could fall prey to these chemicals. Aside from Meso, is there any other board that does not have a SARM agenda? I see it everywhere. To some, this place is just the grumpy behind the times naysayer site. Very troubling if you look at it with extreme objectivity. Even here, you'll get the occasional person shilling the SARMs and the other RCs. Buyer beware to the max. There are logs everywhere with reported "success;" success which has absolutely NOTHING to do with the 10 other compounds the "brother" is running.


edit: I'd like to attribute some of the blind skepticism of the facts to drug propaganda like "reefer madness" and "steroid madness."
 
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I did find one study with primates that RAD-140 was administered for 29 days. Still looking for others.

mands

A LOT of the data I've reviewed on SARMS has been extrapolated from or make references to Ostra.

The article I posted a while back is an excellent review of those SARMS as of 2005 and none came even close to the data obtained from OSTRA research.

One simple example Rad-140 resalers have commented it's use only resulted in a 20% reduction of gonadotrophin levels. Sounds good right? NOT bc a very limited anabolic benefit was noted at those dosages which only minimally effected LH levels. (Ostra RAT data)
 
Well by golly if everyone left Evo who would be our "informant" bc MANY Meso vets have been booted like myself, Mands and I think even Doc D, to name a few.

They banned me for saying Sarms are a waste of money.lol
 
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It seems Evo vehemently disagrees with that perspective, :) .

Even though SARMS may be of some anabolic benefit (the magnitude of which has yet to be defined), the FACT IS if one compares the cost/benefit ratio, of any PED class or agent, it's really difficult to beat good ol' testosterone as the single anabolic drug of choice, IMO

It's cheap and what's even more important IT WORKS!
 
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I never even got as far as to be able to post over there.. I PM'd a mod, was the only "posting" I could do, and asked to activate my account so I could post. No response days later I pm'd him again and asked "is this site just setup to rep roidmass and sarms?".. They never replied and never activated my account. LOL!!! so I looked around more and found this joint. Only then did I see the light...
 
They probably ran to their safe space where nothing bad can be said or heard. As in bad I mean the truth. These kids now days with their safe space don't hurt my feelings crap
 
I'm on my 5th account there still giving them hell. Just reaching 100post so I can PM newbs and warn them. But in all honesty the board is dead. Very little activity from members other than all the mod's who comment on ever single post.
 
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