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[readalot]

Does it increase PIP?

No idea, although I doubt at that loading you would run into post injection drug precipitation. Trick would be to find lowest ratio that did the trick and that may be a stoich. ratio lower than 1:10. Perhaps start at 2 to 5 mg/ml? That would be 6 to 15 mg of Vit D per 300 mg of tren A. 6 to 15 IU per week. Not much.

On paper is very cool but in reality? What's the toxicity of injecting that much VIT E every week? Calculating an average of 300/400mg TREN A a week that's 45/60mg vit E a week injected IM so absorption must be a lot better and bioavailability higher compared to oral route isn't it?

IM bioavailability for dl must be close to 100%. I see oral it is all over the place

https://academic.oup.com/nutritionreviews/article-abstract/71/6/319/1881526

Second, the efficiency of vitamin E absorption is widely variable, though not accurately known (i.e., between 10% and 79%), and is affected by several dietary factors (e.g., food matrix, fat, and fat-soluble micronutrients). Finally, numerous unanswered questions remain about the metabolization of vitamin E in the intestinal lumen and about the factors affecting the efficiency of vitamin E absorption.

Thank for reviewing.

 

[dinfar1337]

Does it increase PIP? On paper is very cool but in reality? What's the toxicity of injecting that much VIT E every week? Calculating an average of 300/400mg TREN A a week that's 45/60mg vit E a week injected IM so absorption must be a lot better and bioavailability higher compared to oral route isn't it?

it wouldn't change anything anyways other than color

u would still have to inject 100mg degraded tren in this context

it will just be either 1ml tren a or 1.1ml with vit e added in the mix.

we already saw kains difference with less tren for 10ml 500mg vs 1g

this guy just found a way for sources to cheat us already!

 

[readalot]

it wouldn't change anything anyways other than color

u would still have to inject 100mg degraded tren in this context

it will just be either 1ml tren a or 1.1ml with vit e added in the mix.

we already saw kains difference with less tren for 10ml 500mg vs 1g

No I meant to suggest it as an AO package to stop tren discoloration over time (storage, etc) for a well made tren vial like kain's. So a starting vial made right.

 

[Sampei]

it wouldn't change anything anyways other than color

u would still have to inject 100mg degraded tren in this context

it will just be either 1ml tren a or 1.1ml with vit e added in the mix.

we already saw kains difference with less tren for 10ml 500mg vs 1g

this guy just found a way for sources to cheat us already!

Btw my brewed Tren goes from a slight very thin yellow to a more gold yellow and it stays like that after months. Never went orange or dark. So in my opinion it's mostly all about temperature and oxygen.

 

[readalot]

Btw my brewed Tren goes from a slight very thin yellow to a more gold yellow and it stays like that after months. Never went orange or dark. So in my opinion it's mostly all about temperature and oxygen.

You use a high quality oil with low peroxide value i would surmise. Oil quality also a big deal. Sampei = quality ingredients.

Hence would an AO package help some of these sources using lower grade oils (?), since I doubt they use the good stuff. Never ending quest to raise the standards and quality. Seems like tren color/impurities is an easy one.
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[Sampei]

You use a high quality oil with low peroxide value i would surmise. Oil quality also a big deal. Sampei = quality ingredients.

Hence would AO package help some of these sources using lower grade oils since j doubt they want to use the good stuff. Never ending quest to raise the standards and quality. Seems like tren color/impurities is an easy one.
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Pharma grade carrier oils all Ph.eur same as the solvents used, all Ph.eur (equivalent to USP grade for our murican friends or BP grade for our British friends)

 

[Sampei]

I just checked the COA of my latest batch of MCT oil I'm using: Peroxide value by pharmacopeia need to be below 1.0 - present value of this batch is: 0.0



Attached COA for reference
@readalot

 

[readalot]

Peroxide value by pharmacopeia need to be below 1.0 - present value of this batch is: 0.0

 

[TurboJet]

@readalot I grabbed some pictures of the Tren I have on hand, you want me to post them here?

 

[TurboJet]

Just pulled up an older picture of it and appears to have darkened over time.

Guess I'll just have to use it before it goes bad!

 

[Photon]

Was just kicking this around for later...

Antioxidant package (minimize color formation over time for storage?)

TRA MW = 312.4 g/mol

DL-alpha-Tocopherol acetate USP MW = 472.76 g/mol

DL-alpha-Tocopherol acetate, EP/USP/FCC grade (CAS 7695-91-2) | Glentham Life Sciences

View GV1022 - DL-alpha-Tocopherol acetate, EP/USP/FCC grade (7695-91-2) offered by Glentham Life Sciences.

www.glentham.com

For a 1:10 stochiometric ratio that would be about 15 mg/ml of Vit E for 100 mg/ml TRA. Really need that much?

Alpha-Tocopherol Acetate - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics

www.sciencedirect.com

Could play around with loading ratio. Not many IU of Vit E per 100 mg TRA dose. Would this preserve color over time?

See table with parenteral drugs that employ vit E as excipient...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0928098725000193

Purists may want d-alpha.

How difficult would it be to purge oxygen out of the vial?
I'd think that'd be preferred rather than injecting some vitamins.
We might have to do a vitamin degradation test next..

Replacing oxygen in vials with nitrogen? Argon?

 

[readalot]

How difficult would it be to purge oxygen out of the vial?
I'd think that'd be preferred rather than injecting some vitamins.
We might have to do a vitamin degradation test next..

Replacing oxygen in vials with nitrogen? Argon?

I already posted on inert gas. Most sources probably wont touch it. Serious safety issue without proper equipment.

Vit E is stable at room temp. Throw it in at the end of brew once cooled. It sources are brewing right with tren then room temp should be dang close to room temp.

Maybe have a sleeve for the vials as well to minimize light exposure.

Premium tren done right.

 

[readalot]

Update: will place order with Janoshik when they open next week.

@kain

 

[readalot]

@readalot I grabbed some pictures of the Tren I have on hand, you want me to post them here?

Yes sir. Thank you. Hoping for a tren done right calendar.

 

[Photon]

I already posted on inert gas. Most sources probably wont touch it. Serious safety issue without proper equipment.

Could probably connect something like this to a silicone tubing and luer needle instead of getting a gas tank.


Right now if i plan to use Tren, i'll just find a vendor with a relative new batch then quickly finish it.

The GA tren, I don't recall it being that color when i bought it last year..

 

[Sampei]

Could probably connect something like this to a silicone tubing and luer needle instead of getting a gas tank.
View attachment 341322

Right now if i plan to use Tren, i'll just find a vendor with a relative new batch then quickly finish it.

The GA tren, I don't recall it being that color when i bought it last year..
View attachment 341323

Same colour that a friend of mine showed me of the GA TREN E he bought, actually his was probably darker

 

[readalot]

The GA tren, I don't recall it being that color when i bought it last year..

Run!!!!!!

 

[readalot]

Could probably connect something like this to a silicone tubing and luer needle instead of getting a gas tank.

Without a fume hood there is no way in good conscience I can ask sources to mess with this. Appreciate your sharing though.

We will find a way to make better tren consistent among the vendors though. We gonna shine a light and see what we find.

 

[dinfar1337]

Without a fume hood there is no way in good conscience I can ask sources to mess with this. Appreciate your sharing though.

We will find a way to make better tren consistent among the vendors though. We gonna shine a light and see what we find.

we go from spiderman trenbolone to venom trenbolone

 

[AbsoluteKnight]

@readalot i don’t think the color matters all that much tbh, but you seem to have at least pushed for sources to make a less oxidative potentially better tren. You might be growing on me my little Karen here you go my contribution to your little project. This is my only other “alt account” for the record



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