May be the end of the line on gear for me. Having LUTS saw the urologist and he said my prostate is enormous.

[jtmarlin]

I just started a ten-day course of both Prostamax and Vesilute. Pretty fascinating if you dig into BPH and the intended effects of the bioregulators (moreso Prostamax in this case). I was already on Tamsulosin 0.8mg for a while, which helped a little with having to get up in middle of night. Recently switched to Silodosin 8mg, which is having a much stronger effect, to the point I can absolutely feel the pressure/bottleneck in prostate area when urinating. I'll report back in a few weeks if I find any relief from the bioregulators. It takes time for tissue to rearrange itself (supposedly). I'll try anything to avoid both DHT blockers (I don't do well, even low dose) and especially surgery or any kind of invasive procedure.

Take a flow test at the urologist. If you are running sub 10 qmax on silodosin, you sre most likely damaging your bladder. Whether they are correct or not, urology told me nothing I will do is going to work at this point, even finasteride. They even advised against using finasteride. The guy doing my aquablation did his brother's prostate a few years back and he told me literally everything is the same he just misses better. Thats why aquablation is so sought after. There is no heat in the ablation process, only heat during the bleeding stoppage.

 

[Naugahyde]

Another update on this. Definitely have obstruction due to BPH. I am getting an Aquablation (it's an ablation of prostate tissue with a high powered water jet) done asap and am just waiting to be scheduled by the surgeon's office (we met this week).

This has been happening FOR A LONG TIME as I have a wide mouth diverticulum on my bladder and that takes years and years and years to develop.

To recap I abused testosterone and other AAS but mainly testosterone and dianabol beginning 17 years ago in my late 20s for 3 years. I spent the majority of those 3 years on testosterone. I was completely natural for the next 10 years and then began TRT - I also cycled a bit as well with primo and higher levels of testosterone during TRT years but most of the time was on true TRT. This means that my BPH obstruction began in my late 20s/early 30s for this diverticulum to have time to form and time has pushed it over the edge. I'm convinced it was the gear and there is a lesson there. Avoid my mistakes and don't get a coronary artery calcification and an enlarged prostate in your 40s.

The interesting thing is that every urologist I have met with consulted with procedurally on this journey has told me to stay on testosterone and were rabidly against the use of finasteride.

I stopped finasteride a couple of months ago after taking it for approx 5 years ( 5mg pd ). Can't say I noticed much if anything in the way of side effects, physically or mentally while on it or since. Urologist decided while it was helping a bit for my Bph it wasn't making a significant enough difference. To be honest I'd have no qualms taking it again if needed.

 

[Photon]

Urologist decided while it was helping a bit for my Bph it wasn't making a significant enough difference.

Did he suggest an alternative?

 

[CarvinDC125]

My mistakes were using too much testosterone for too long. The amount of E2 and DHT 500+ mg of testosterone per week generates is off the charts. Also it wasn't as common back then to control these metabolites. We also thought it was normal to do 500 test as a first cycle and 500 test + 600 eq as a second. Totally insane


What this led to was unchecked dislipidemia and prostate enlargement. Had I known better 15 years ago I would have used statins or not cycled at all. I also would have used lower amounts of testosterone and higher amounts of less androgenic anabolics.

Anavar is only mild from an androgenic point of view. It will destroy your lipids if you don't control them.

I am so glad I never bought into that.
My first cycle was 300mg test prop a week
Second cycle was
300mg test C per week
Third cycle was my last for 22 years and it was 300mg test C per week
50mg EOD Winstrol
I always kept the doses very conservative.
hoping to be able to run gear conservatively through my 60s I’m In my 40s now.

 

[jtmarlin]

I am so glad I never bought into that.
My first cycle was 300mg test prop a week
Second cycle was
300mg test C per week
Third cycle was my last for 22 years and it was 300mg test C per week
50mg EOD Winstrol
I always kept the doses very conservative.
hoping to be able to run gear conservatively through my 60s I’m In my 40s now.

When I was involved the movie Bigger Stronger Faster was out and the push was that steroids were way less dangerous than anyone thought and I bought into it. Now, having had these health issues, I am of the opinion that they are just as dangerous as believed all along. When I see guys taking 1000mg of test, 500mg of masteron, 500mg of primo and anavar on training days and 100mg of winstrol daily 3 weeks out then say they have no side effects and their lipids are "fine" I wonder what planet they are living on. Hair loss, gyno and acne are not the only side effects and you only learn about atherosclerosis and prostate issues when the damage is already done. Having an HDL of 10 is a side effect even you dont know.

One of the biggest trends is using high test and high primo together but IMO that is very dangerous bc primo will boost the free T well beyond what it would be on T alone and the DHT levels will be in the stratosphere.