macros and calories

tdad

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I've been doing my calculations and they just don't seem right to me.
I currently weigh 225 I'm 6'1
I'm trying to pack on as much size as possible with minimal fat
3450 calories a day don't sound like nearly enough
But I'm hitting 300 g of protein, 360 g of carbs, and 90 g of fat, every single day.
So that'd be 42%c/35%p/23%f
Can anyone critique or offer some wisdom to me
 
I've been doing my calculations and they just don't seem right to me.
I currently weigh 225 I'm 6'1
I'm trying to pack on as much size as possible with minimal fat
3450 calories a day don't sound like nearly enough
But I'm hitting 300 g of protein, 360 g of carbs, and 90 g of fat, every single day.
So that'd be 42%c/35%p/23%f
Can anyone critique or offer some wisdom to me
On cycle I would lower fat and up carbs. That's all I would change.
 
How old are you and how active are you outside of the gym ie work, hobbies, etc?

Quick way to test that is eat that amount of calories for 2-3 weeks and track your weight. If you don't add weight you're not eating enough.
 
On cycle I would lower fat and up carbs. That's all I would change.
Whilst maintaining calories? Or just adjust macros and up calories. If so, what macros should I go off of, and how many calories. What would you recommend?
 
How old are you and how active are you outside of the gym ie work, hobbies, etc?

Quick way to test that is eat that amount of calories for 2-3 weeks and track your weight. If you don't add weight you're not eating enough.
25 and I'm pretty active. Do a lot of moving around at work
 
Whilst maintaining calories? Or just adjust macros and up calories. If so, what macros should I go off of, and how many calories. What would you recommend?
My rule of thumb most won't agree with but it gives me the best look I can get. 1.5x LBM protein. 2g per lb carb. And as low fat as you can go. Only from animal meat no added fats. And adjust carbs when weight loss stalls
 
I am 185 pounds and 5'8 and my maintenance is like 2985 or something close to that i bulk with no gear at 3500 and with gear at about 1000 cals over. Also I do not like the advice to try and keep your fat as low as possible it controls hormone regulation and can ease joint issues, especially added fats part animal fats are great but truly good fats come from your olive oils coconut oil avacados. Fat aids in brain function also so don't skimp. I prefer high fat diets but never go lower than 30% fat anymore.
 
All great input. Do you think my 23% will suffice? Also do you prefer to avoid fats post workout? Meaning focus on more protein and carbs?
 
All great input. Do you think my 23% will suffice? Also do you prefer to avoid fats post workout? Meaning focus on more protein and carbs?

Your fat intake is more than enough to maintain hormone function etc. No reason to avoid fats post workout. If you want them add them. If you don't skip them n
 
I don't know the exact number where your hormones and brain function goes down with fat % but your 23% is more than enough I just wouldn't put it any lower (I am throughing a lot of personal opinion on this one) lots of people love the 40/40/20 macro breakdown so 23% is just fine. As doc said fat won't hinder you at all post workout but if you have simple carbs post workout you get a nice insulin spike and increases protien synthesis so carbs and protien is the more ideal.
 
I don't know the exact number where your hormones and brain function goes down with fat % but your 23% is more than enough I just wouldn't put it any lower (I am throughing a lot of personal opinion on this one) lots of people love the 40/40/20 macro breakdown so 23% is just fine. As doc said fat won't hinder you at all post workout but if you have simple carbs post workout you get a nice insulin spike and increases protien synthesis so carbs and protien is the more ideal.

The insulin spike isn't needed to stimulate protein synthesis brother. The "anabolic post workout window" as some call it is not a short period of time but about 24hrs. Protein synthesis is increased for about 24hrs post workout so you can pretty much eat whatever you want with protein and still reap the benefits.

Here's a great read that reviews nutrient timing:

http://www.jissn.com/content/pdf/1550-2783-10-5.pdf
 
appears beneficial to desired resistance training outcomes. Studies show a supercompensation of glycogen stores when carbohydrate is consumed immediately post-exercise, and delaying consumption by just 2 hours attenuates the rate of muscle glycogen re-synthesis by as much as 50% [21]. Exercise enhances insulin-stimulated glucose uptake following a workout with a strong correlation noted between the amount of uptake and the magnitude of glycogen utilization [22]. This is in part due to an increase in the translocation of GLUT4 during glycogen depletion [23,24] thereby facilitating entry of glucose into the cell. In addition, there is an exercise-induced increase in the activity of glycogen synthase—the principle enzyme involved in promoting glycogen storage [25]. The combination of these factors facilitates the rapid uptake of glucose following an exercise bout, allowing glycogen to be replenished at an accelerated rate.

This portion of the study caught my eye, although when continuing reading they do emphasize it really isnt all that important unless you plan on doing exercise within the next 8 hours. So my question would be for you @Docd187123 would you possible consider it important if you needed to do a physical job after say a morning workout? I understand that its not going to make a difference for your future workout or your final recovery but could we not say that it would be important to utilize the time frame so you would be able to perform better during other activities you may be doing before the 8 hour mark?

BTW thanks for that its a great read and makes me worry less about hitting my meal right away when I get home.
 
appears beneficial to desired resistance training outcomes. Studies show a supercompensation of glycogen stores when carbohydrate is consumed immediately post-exercise, and delaying consumption by just 2 hours attenuates the rate of muscle glycogen re-synthesis by as much as 50% [21]. Exercise enhances insulin-stimulated glucose uptake following a workout with a strong correlation noted between the amount of uptake and the magnitude of glycogen utilization [22]. This is in part due to an increase in the translocation of GLUT4 during glycogen depletion [23,24] thereby facilitating entry of glucose into the cell. In addition, there is an exercise-induced increase in the activity of glycogen synthase—the principle enzyme involved in promoting glycogen storage [25]. The combination of these factors facilitates the rapid uptake of glucose following an exercise bout, allowing glycogen to be replenished at an accelerated rate.

This portion of the study caught my eye, although when continuing reading they do emphasize it really isnt all that important unless you plan on doing exercise within the next 8 hours. So my question would be for you @Docd187123 would you possible consider it important if you needed to do a physical job after say a morning workout? I understand that its not going to make a difference for your future workout or your final recovery but could we not say that it would be important to utilize the time frame so you would be able to perform better during other activities you may be doing before the 8 hour mark?

BTW thanks for that its a great read and makes me worry less about hitting my meal right away when I get home.

No problem man. I thought your enjoy it and the authors are two of the best in the field. Very bright minds.

As to your question, I think it's more of a mental thing or placebo. I used to get I the simple sugars and protein drink immediately post workout as mentioned and have long since gravitated to eating whatever the fuck I want post workout now. Complex carbs, simple carbs, loads of fat, no fat, high protein low protein....whatever I want. I also work a very physical job. My training usually is done around 9-10pm. I have a meal once I get home then it's bed. Wake up at 4-5am and start the physical job. I've noticed no difference. So long as I meet my day's macro and calorie needs I'm fine to perform the next day at work. Sometimes it helps me mentally if I had a large carb meal the night before after the gym but again it's a mental/placebo thing nothing really physiological. If you prefer a simple carb and protein drink post workout by all means have it, just don't think it's REQUIRED bc it really isn't. Nutrient timing is an important aspect but it's individualized meaning your timing will differ than mine will differ than joe Blow's down the road so you can't generalize it other than to say "experiment away and find what works for you". Hope that helped
 
Always a pleasure to learn something new for sure, I think im going to try it for the next week and delay my post workout and see if i notice anything. Through reading that I dont think i will because i do always make sure i have a solid pre workout meal as i know my performance is bad if i dont have a pre meal.
 
Always a pleasure to learn something new for sure, I think im going to try it for the next week and delay my post workout and see if i notice anything. Through reading that I dont think i will because i do always make sure i have a solid pre workout meal as i know my performance is bad if i dont have a pre meal.

Spot on. A good pre workout meal will still be digesting and absorbing nutrients well after your workout.
 
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