low test to trt to first cycle.

david38016

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39m 6'4" who recently lost a lot of weight 380lbs down to 190 in about about 1-1/2 years thanks to the help of glp-1... i will also say my muscle mass is probably below average mostly from a not active life style and partly from the large year+ long deficit

after dialing back the dose i still felt like crap and after doing more research i got my test tested came back to 198ng...
figured i start with 200mg test cyp per week after 3-4 weeks i felt amazing like a whole new person no E2 sides libido was through the roof...
did another blood test 5-weeks in and i maxed out the total test >1500 and E2 came back at 49

i know the general consciousness is that we should get to our natural limit and then start running a cycle
i figured i have my diet on point but from a training perspective I'm really lacking so i hired a personal trainer (3x a week) and explained that i was using AAS he has experience working with guys that are enhanced...

so now i'm on my first real cycle 700mg test and 300mg mast bloods for this after 5 weeks are below:

TESTOSTERONE, FREE, BIOAVAILABLE AND TOTAL, MS
ALBUMIN 3.7 3.6-5.1 g/dL Z3E
SEX HORMONE BINDING Z3E GLOBULIN 9 L 10-50 nmol/L

TESTOSTERONE, FREE 1906.2 H 46.0-224.0 pg/mL
TESTOSTERONE,BIOAVAILABLE 3257.1 H 110.0-575.0 ng/dL
TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, MS 3708 H 250-1100 ng/dL Z3E


lipids are little bad i got a preskip for a statin, and doubled my cardio...blood pressure i check everyday is great...
ldl 130
hdl 38


E2 test has not came back yet seems Quest is a little slow on this...
i imagine the E2 will be high but that the Mast is helping control my symtoms ( i have none)
i have expermented with takeing the 2 poplar AI even taking small dosage i feel like i crash my E2 or atleast i feel like it i really don't like low E2 feeling and would much rather be on the higher side...


so progress so far for 200mg for 15weeks and 5 weeks of 700mg test and 300mg mast:
i have gained about 25lbs the deca machine is down at the gym but looking in the mirror it doesn't look like a lot of fat or water retention strength has massively increased even suprising trainer a little.

planning on running this cycle for about 15 more weeks and drop to around 150mg a week while i cut slowly and let my body recover my plan is to trt for the rest of my life and to throw a few cycles into here i have no allusions of becoming some kind of pro body builder but i def want to put some muscle on my frame maybe a little past what is naturall
 
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You're on a gram for your first cycle, and while having out of range cholesterol?

What does your other bloodwork look like?

Have you had a calcium score and / or echo / cardiac mri?

It would be non-sensical to think that you escaped the effects and risks of obesity and high cholesterol.

Dial it back. Get some maturity and experience in your training.

Get some thorough health exams and don't start AAS until your cholesterol is within AAS range.

Keep in mind that the average "healthy" ranges are for people who are not using anabolic steroids. You have to beat those ranges.
 
lipids/ where great during trt dosages these lipid numbers are 5-6 weeks into cycle i plan to test lipids only again in another 5 weeks and decide to either cut short or continue dependent on success of stain+ezetimibe at getting me into a normal range i honestly thought my numbers weren't that bad and responding aggressive with pharma may have been slightly over kill.

my other blood work was only cbc,liver ast/alt and the E2 that hasn't came back... no out of range numbers on the others

did not have a calcium score or mri done.
the calcium score is on my after cycle to list thoe
 
lipids/ where great during trt dosages these lipid numbers are 5-6 weeks into cycle i plan to test lipids only again in another 5 weeks and decide to either cut short or continue dependent on success of stain+ezetimibe at getting me into a normal range i honestly thought my numbers weren't that bad and responding aggressive with pharma may have been slightly over kill.

my other blood work was only cbc,liver ast/alt and the E2 that hasn't came back... no out of range numbers on the others

did not have a calcium score or mri done.
the calcium score is on my after cycle to list thoe
The lipid numbers you posted are bad, and incomplete.

You need to get your LDL to 70 or lower, and HDL as close to 60 as possible.

What are your triglycerides, LpA and ApoB?

Why are you waiting to get a calcium score. Get that shit now.

You were a 400 pound person. We know what the effects of that are. You aren't the magical one who escaped unharmed. Masteron and high test are not treatment for it.

Drop the drugs

Get better blood work

Get your calcium score

Visit a cardiologist

Determine what you are dealing with and treat it properly

......then.... if or when everything is good...... start some PED's

While you are doing all that, focus on gaining training experience and optimizing everything else
 
The lipid numbers you posted are bad, and incomplete.

You need to get your LDL to 70 or lower, and HDL as close to 60 as possible.

What are your triglycerides, LpA and ApoB?

Why are you waiting to get a calcium score. Get that shit now.

You were a 400 pound person. We know what the effects of that are. You aren't the magical one who escaped unharmed. Masteron and high test are not treatment for it.

Drop the drugs

Get better blood work

Get your calcium score

Visit a cardiologist

Determine what you are dealing with and treat it properly

......then.... if or when everything is good...... start some PED's

While you are doing all that, focus on gaining training experience and optimizing everything else
i only got a standard lipid panel has
total,hdl,ldl,chol/hdlc ratio,non hdl, and TRIGLYCERIDES

TRIGLYCERIDES are 121 mg/dl

don't see LpA and ApoB. guess i need to get a different test thanks will look into this
 
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