Low Test + Nandrolone TRT

[ames.olson]

Hey all - have been running "TRT" at 200mg T for awhile. Added in 50mg Deca for joints about a year ago and holy cow what a difference it made. Just that change added more progress at the gym than I'd seen in years of TRT.

Anyways, have been considering doing something like 100mg Test + 125mg Deca for TRT cruise. I've heard a few people talk about the benefits - you keep enough of an aromatizable base for some estrogen, but the rest of the anabolic total is filled with Deca. It's more hair safe, theoretically maybe more lipid safe/BP safe too? And mg for mg maybe a bit more impactful for muscle growth?

I'm in my 40s so not looking to go crazy - but what do you guys think? Anyone else done something like this? How did it turn out?

 

[Tdeck81]

I’ve been asking similar questions and reading various opinions on the subject. From my reading, it’s going to boil down to lab work and how you feel. People experience sides from deca at different points, you could be good now but at 75mgs experience sides. No one can tell you for sure. If you’re worried about total anabolic load slowly increase deca and simultaneously decrease test?


If your bloodwork currently looks good, why not slowly increase the deca dose and see how you respond? A general rule I kept stumbling upon was keeping a 2:1 test:deca ratio but again everyone responds differently.

The general consensus seems to be make subtle adjustments instead of wholesale changes to any program. Some guys will probably chime in that have the practical experience. Good luck with it

 

[wp_375]

60 Test / 150 Deca cruise right now and feel fucking fantastic. This combo as far as feels go feels better than anywhere between 100-250mg of Test a week I've tried.

There's an absolutely massive thread on Excelmale about it but the general consensus for a lot of guys doing Deca base is they feel best between 35-80mg of Test and 100-200mg Deca/NPP.

 

[ames.olson]

I’ve been asking similar questions and reading various opinions on the subject. From my reading, it’s going to boil down to lab work and how you feel. People experience sides from deca at different points, you could be good now but at 75mgs experience sides. No one can tell you for sure. If you’re worried about total anabolic load slowly increase deca and simultaneously decrease test?


If your bloodwork currently looks good, why not slowly increase the deca dose and see how you respond? A general rule I kept stumbling upon was keeping a 2:1 test:deca ratio but again everyone responds differently.

The general consensus seems to be make subtle adjustments instead of wholesale changes to any program. Some guys will probably chime in that have the practical experience. Good luck with it

Thanks for the reply! I've heard the 2:1 thing too, but I've come across a few other people who keep the test very low and the deca quite a bit higher (almost the inverse ratio) and they claim the sides like Deca dick and bad mental headspace are a function of the testosterone being too high (which seems counterintuitive to me) but there's been enough of them that swear by it which makes me curious to try!

 

[ames.olson]

60 Test / 150 Deca cruise right now and feel fucking fantastic. This combo as far as feels go feels better than anywhere between 100-250mg of Test a week I've tried.

There's an absolutely massive thread on Excelmale about it but the general consensus for a lot of guys is they feel best between 35-80mg of Test and 100-200mg Deca/NPP.

Thanks! Have you tried other ratios and other compounds added in your TRT? Is this the setup you like best?

 

[wp_375]

Thanks! Have you tried other ratios and other compounds added in your TRT? Is this the setup you like best?

I've tried test everywhere between 100 and 250 a week. Also tried cruising on 180 Test and 100 Primo which was pretty good. I'm a higher aromatizer, 150+ a week of Test means I need AI unless I inject daily and I was getting sick of that shit. Also TRT doses of Test have thinned the shit out of my hair so I looked into Deca based to minimize DHT while still having plenty of androgens and not having to use Fin or Dutasteride.

Now I inject 150mg of Deca in one shot on Sunday and do two 30mg Test shots a week with a tiny slin needle. Sex drive is great without being distracting like high Test. Erection quality is diamond like. I'm going to run it for at least another month and get bloods but my BP is under 120 and I feel great.

Joint pain is significantly improved, my knees and back are wrecked from being Airborne in the Army.

 

[bananafeet]

Hey all - have been running "TRT" at 200mg T for awhile. Added in 50mg Deca for joints about a year ago and holy cow what a difference it made. Just that change added more progress at the gym than I'd seen in years of TRT.

Anyways, have been considering doing something like 100mg Test + 125mg Deca for TRT cruise. I've heard a few people talk about the benefits - you keep enough of an aromatizable base for some estrogen, but the rest of the anabolic total is filled with Deca. It's more hair safe, theoretically maybe more lipid safe/BP safe too? And mg for mg maybe a bit more impactful for muscle growth?

I'm in my 40s so not looking to go crazy - but what do you guys think? Anyone else done something like this? How did it turn out?

After much agonising over I personally have come to find 125mg test E and 100mg Decca is perfect combo for me.

Too much decca will lead to sexual dysfunction type issues (lack of sensitivity, prolactin type stuff). Too little decca and you don't get enough of the benifits on joints and pain relief.

I've come to accept I'm kinda dependent of nandralone long term because as soon as I remove it my quality of life takes a hit. Joint pain comes roaring back.

My only hope I have if staying on HGH for long enough may help heal some of my joint issues so I can get off nandralone long term.

My bloods are basically perfect on this combo and it's plenty anabolic for the gym.