low dose tren ace experiment

[Mfras]

Howdy

Welcome to my overly wordy first ‘cycle log’ here. It’s not anything groundbreaking but maybe it’ll be helpful for anybody thinking of doing the same- both my questionable decisions & results, and possibly any insightful comments that folks might have.

I’m not trying to go ‘on cycle’ here, but I’ve tried all the PEDs I’m interested in before and gained understanding of effects, dosing, sides & management. But never trenbolone. I always regarded it as the poison danger juice only for stage BBs or pro strength athletes, with a risk to reward profile that kept it properly out of reach for mortals, and especially old fat dudes. It’s kind of the final frontier for me of stuff I’m really curious about but hadn’t tried yet.

Yes doing steroids in general is dumb, and tren is one of the harshest. I know. I’m a grownup and take responsibility for my choices.

Well after reading story after story about successful low or no side effects at low or moderate dose use, and how lots of the horror stories are from people starting at 500/week and going up, I got more curious about trying it.

I’m finishing a long cut- 20lbs left to cut for my initial target weight and dexa has me currently at 17%. I’m not trying to bulk, sharpen my look, accelerate fat loss, or stay on long enough to really get serious benefits here. Just titrating up seeing if my body hates it or not, and jumping back off. Planning to actually run a lean bulk/strength cycle once I’m down to 10-12% fat and maintained for a bit, hopefully this summer. Maybe trenA will be somewhere in that stack, maybe not…

I just got fresh bloodwork on my cutting cruise and e2 is hovering in a perfect spot- low 20s- to hopefully not see gyno or those type sides. Feeling great considering I’m still losing 1lb fat/week and lifting heavy. My plan is 4 weeks or at most 6 weeks of daily pins, titrating up until I see sides, or reach a reasonable total limit without sides (40/day is still under 300mg/week and kind of doibt I’ll het that high!) then dropping it with knowledge of whether it’s something that could possibly be useful in the future or if my body fucking hates it. Not sure if the nutrient partitioning effect is worth the systemic stress even at super low dose? Would be nice to get it high enough to see strength begin to be affected, but that might take longer than the planned weeks. Mainly I’m exploring the onset of sides.

I’m monitoring my bp, my cut, my mood, my sleep, and my strength. Don’t know if my look will change since I’m not properly lean, but I do have arm & leg vascularity, and pec veins with a pump. Abs starting to peek. Diet is dialed in- 1950 cals/day with 60g fat 210g protein. Good sleep, 1gal water/day. No drinking, smoking, my hobbies are lifting, diet, PEDs, and sex. Lifting is dialed in, a bro split I guess 5x/week PPLUL with stuff mixed in on opposite days to increase volume for lagging parts. I’m not gonna stay on long enough to expect seeing serious gains (?) but any strength increase will be noted.

6’3” 47yo, 250lbs. 3 years consistent training & diet after a long gap & fucked up skeletal injuries. Large frame, strong legs & core, upper body coming back from injury atrophy. TRT guy. Bloodwork all in range, some is best ever after steady weight loss.

Current basic existing high cruise/cut stack:
300 testC 150 mastP split MWF
80 deca bolus on Tuesdays
6iu GH split AM/PM
4mg reta split Tues/Fri

I’m not planning to ever do high tren solo (test base ofc) in the future, so lower dose in a moderate stack is probably a good testing environment.

So I’m ending week 2 now of ED tren ace. Started at 5mg/day pinned either mixed with my cruise deep IM MTWF or shallow IM (delts) solo.

3 days @5mg/day- very noticable delt pip when pinned solo, 5/8 30g pin so shallow IM, warmed oil. Intense vivid dreams. Nothing else. After 3 days went up to 10mg/day for a week.

7 days @10mg/day- haven’t noticed/remembered dreams. Strength same, mood same, hints of heartburn, zero reflux, took two tums once but wasn’t full on heartburn. Didn’t get any worse. Good sleep. BP same. Maybe a little sweaty but not drenched or anything a couple nights but that happens sometimes anyway- my wife is like a heater if she snuggles up. She knows about the experiment and is also watching to make sure I don’t yell at our kid or fuck the neighbor’s dog. I’m a very even tempered dude, a little touchy on NPP if I go there, never depressed or angry in general.

Skipped 15mg/day went right to 20mg/day. Small amounts are a pain to measure and transfer, this is easier with 200mg/ml tren I have it’s 0.1ml. 3rd pin @20mg was today.

Still no uncomfortable sides yet, also no strength or mood changes. 140mg/week seems like a very respectable dose- gonna stay here for a week at least and see if problems or benefits creep in- expecting saturation to take a bit but also figuring ace will hit hard and leave fast. Started watering down delt shots with 10mg/10ml mast. Less pip, but maybe I’m acclimating to the ace ester too?

So 13 days in and haven’t noticed much and already jumped up to the beginning of what seems like a really respectable dose. Since I am capping the experiment at 4 weeks, or maybe 6 if I never find nasty sides and make it all the way up to 40mg/day, I’m both thinking maybe I titrated up a little fast, but also that if I didn’t get an immediate “fuck no” from my body maybe more time at an intermediate dose is a good thing to be able to see what happens. That way if I find sides I can go back down and see if they go away or if my body is telling me to cut it out in general.

If anybody read this far I hope the info was clearly presented, and I’ll update when I go up to 25/day or if any results are noticable. I’m not sure if I should expect no response, don’t do tren you old fat retard, great idea I did the same thing and xyz happened, or what, but I’m having no problems so far and not real worried about health impact of a little blip of poison in my healthy lifestyle.

I’ll update this as I go.

 

[craigdt]

Don't do tren you old fat retard.

Just kidding.

Its been my observation, based upon reading here and other sources, that the younger you are, possibly the more likely you are to have bigger negative side effects on tren. But that could be total junk.

I did a tren cycle (37 year old) and had virtually no negative side effects at ranges from 150 to 300 per week.

Never tried more than that.

I bet you're gonna be fine, as long ad you keep an eye on it. You seem like an even keeled guy. Good you told your wife, I did the same.

Be interesting to pump those numbers up a bit, see if you get more oomph without the sides.

 

[Mfras]

Don't do tren you old fat retard.

Just kidding.

Its been my observation, based upon reading here and other sources, that the younger you are, possibly the more likely you are to have bigger negative side effects on tren. But that could be total junk.

I did a tren cycle (37 year old) and had virtually no negative side effects at ranges from 150 to 300 per week.

Never tried more than that.

I bet you're gonna be fine, as long ad you keep an eye on it. You seem like an even keeled guy. Good you told your wife, I did the same.

Be interesting to pump those numbers up a bit, see if you get more oomph without the sides.

Hahaa thanks. I’ve heard of folks getting mindfucked on deca/npp around 2-300mg but happy as a clam on 5-700. So your question of titrating up past sides is an interesting one.

The idea that tren equals 5:1 testosterone on paper, or maybe 3x in application, is one that sticks in my mind. I’m not going for a competition physique, or the risks that come with it. A heavy cycle to me is still WELL under a gram total and will probably leverage NPP as a primary anabolic, with some mast and undecided about running high or low test w it, but I know that 400ish T and 2-300 npp makes the weights move pretty easy. No idea if tren will be in play next year yet.

I’m unsure about the idea of spreading side effects (and benefits) among a more diverse stack actually being super useful. Certainly the drawback for inexperienced users is management and knowing which compound is the problem if you have one. Which is part of why I’m experimenting.

But also I’ll freely admit to just enjoying dumbass recreational use and doing science experiments on myself. I also enjoy seeing diet and training inputs and outputs, it’s all super interesting finding out what all the hype is about with different compounds.

Some hype about gear seems to be super real- TRT was revolutionary for my mood, quality of life, gym progress, and playing with adding stuff in showed it definitely works. But also the secret is also just dedicated training and patience too- no instant easy button.

 

[atruse]

Hahaa thanks. I’ve heard of folks getting mindfucked on deca/npp around 2-300mg but happy as a clam on 5-700. So your question of titrating up past sides is an interesting one.

The idea that tren equals 1:5 testosterone on paper, or maybe 3x in application, is one that sticks in my mind. I’m not going for a competition physique, or the risks that come with it. A heavy cycle to me is still WELL under a gram total and will probably leverage NPP as a primary anabolic, with some mast and undecided about running high or low test w it, but I know that 400ish T and 2-300 npp makes the weights move pretty easy. No idea if tren will be in play next year yet.

I’m unsure about the idea of spreading side effects (and benefits) among a more diverse stack actually being super useful. Certainly the drawback for inexperienced users is management and knowing which compound is the problem if you have one. Which is part of why I’m experimenting.

But also I’ll freely admit to just enjoying dumbass recreational use and doing science experiments on myself. I also enjoy seeing diet and training inputs and outputs, it’s all super interesting finding out what all the hype is about with different compounds.

Some hype about gear seems to be super real- TRT was revolutionary for my mood, quality of life, gym progress, and playing with adding stuff in showed it definitely works. But also the secret is also just dedicated training and patience too- no instant easy button.

Well said

Sounds like we have similar mind sets.

Looking forward to hear more about this journey

I just finished 35mg/wk tren ace
Loved it - can’t wait to bring it back haha

 

[Mfras]

Well said

Sounds like we have similar mind sets.

Looking forward to hear more about this journey

I just finished 35mg/wk tren ace
Loved it - can’t wait to bring it back haha

Thanks! What did you notice on 35/day? Gains/sides/stack?

 

[ETliens]

I look forward to hearing more about your experience! I’m running tren ace 65mg eod, for the first time and have had little side effects at 42 years old. The ones that are there are fairly minor. The biggest, most disruptive has probably been the trensomnia.

 

[atruse]

Thanks! What did you notice on 35/day? Gains/sides/stack?

Yah there’s a thread on the steroid forum for microdosing tren lots of guy sharing experiences there u should check out too

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Thread 'Anyone microdose tren?'

Oct 20, 2025

I saw a poster here saying they microdose tren year round. Curious to see who else is doing it and with what results/ any sides/ blood work?

I'm keen to try it myself, but I finished a blast about 6 weeks ago and I'm waiting for my crashed lipids to normalize before thinking about it...

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I had nothing but positives, I took it PWO, so added some extra energy, strength, nothing wild tho. Libido took a boost too.
Even at low dose I noticed cosmetic differences coming through.
Only sides were elevated respiratory rate, and I did start to get night sweats at week5/6

I only ran 6 weeks for a trial run.

My trt prescription Blood work is next week, so next cycle starts after that

 

[bob357sig]

55 here and just finishing up a tren A experiment myself. 90mg week split mwf. I loved it, good way to finish my test/ EQ blast I have been on for 20 weeks. I ran the tren last 6 weeks and only noticeable side has been acid reflux at night. Nothing a little omeprasrasole couldn’t handle.

 

[Mfras]

Pinned day 4 @ 20mg, on my way to the gym- back & biceps today. All the hype I thought by now I’d be sweating through my sheets, hard to be around, maybe adding a rep or two on most lifts. Underwhelmed. I guess that’s a good thing mostly, although being a hyper responder would have been nice. Probably gonna add 5mg tomorrow.

Got a big breakfast in- 60g carbs, 17g fat, 107g protein. Hoping to move some iron today tren or no tren

 

[Mfras]

Lifts were normal. Decent day, good energy, no exceptional progress or anything to report. Zero sides still except the pip- this shit hurts a little more than my usual cocktail in glutes/ventros and kinda really sucks in delts.

Thought I’d stay at 20/day for longer but zero sides or benifits after 4 days I’m going up tomorrow. Seriously considering EOD as well not sure about that.

 

[Mfras]

Went up to 25mg today. Last night had a touch of heartburn and woke up once a little sweaty. Nothing crazy on either account.

 

[Ferhev]

Im on my 3rd week now at 40mg a day. The only thing I noticed with tren is a little bit of night sweats (pretty mild and not every day) and I’m pretty flat although I’ve increased my carb intake.

Other than that it’s like I’m not on tren. My mood is great. (The opposite of NPP that makes me feel irritable and kind of depressed at week 1-2)


I’ve read that in week 4 or 5 is when it shines. Let’s see.

 

[Mfras]

Im on my 3rd week now at 40mg a day. The only thing I noticed with tren is a little bit of night sweats (pretty mild and not every day) and I’m pretty flat although I’ve increased my carb intake.

Other than that it’s like I’m not on tren. My mood is great. (The opposite of NPP that makes me feel irritable and kind of depressed at week 1-2)


I’ve read that in week 4 or 5 is when it shines. Let’s see.

Ok so 280/week- I just got up to day 1 of 175. Still nothing crazy for either of us.

This is supposed to be a low dose experiment but I kind of thought by 100/week I’d be barricaded in my basement sliding in strange women (and men’s) DMs on IG with a tinfoil hat on. Still not staying in past 6 weeks but maybe I’ll actually see some strength before I find bad sides.

By all means check back in if anything good or bad happens- love to hear it.

I did gain 4-5 lbs weight this week- no edema and BP isn’t remarkable. 3lb swings are pretty normal for me though so I dunno.

 

[Mfras]

Up to 35/day and still no sides.

 

[GymSlayer]

Really interesting read, appreciate you taking the time to log this in detail.

I’ve always said tren was something I’d probably never touch because of the sides, especially mood/temper issues — that’s always been my biggest concern. I’ve seen too many horror stories to even consider it seriously.

That said, reading a well thought-out, conservative approach like this is refreshing. Seeing how you’re titrating slowly, monitoring sides, and being honest about what you’re not seeing yet definitely gives a more balanced perspective. It doesn’t make me want to jump on it tomorrow, but it does make me more open to the idea that it isn’t automatically a disaster for everyone when approached carefully.

Looking forward to your updates — experiences like this are way more useful than the usual “tren ruined my life” or “tren is magic” posts.

 

[BigDadd7]

Really interesting read, appreciate you taking the time to log this in detail.

I’ve always said tren was something I’d probably never touch because of the sides, especially mood/temper issues — that’s always been my biggest concern. I’ve seen too many horror stories to even consider it seriously.

That said, reading a well thought-out, conservative approach like this is refreshing. Seeing how you’re titrating slowly, monitoring sides, and being honest about what you’re not seeing yet definitely gives a more balanced perspective. It doesn’t make me want to jump on it tomorrow, but it does make me more open to the idea that it isn’t automatically a disaster for everyone when approached carefully.

Looking forward to your updates — experiences like this are way more useful than the usual “tren ruined my life” or “tren is magic” posts.

Tren e at 100/week is side effects free as far as mental emotional issues. I’ve ran it higher, and I never will again. Higher doses definitely increase paranoia, jealousy, and rage. If you're in a relationship, it's a great way to no longer be in a relationship.

 

[GymSlayer]

Tren e at 100/week is side effects free as far as mental emotional issues. I’ve ran it higher, and I never will again. Higher doses definitely increase paranoia, jealousy, and rage. If you're in a relationship, it's a great way to no longer be in a relationship.

Appreciate the honesty. If 100/week keeps the demons quiet and higher doses summon them… I’m definitely not qualified for the boss fight yet.

I’ll keep tren on the “maybe when I’m single and emotionally unavailable” list.

 

[RockyP]

I’m on my last 2 weeks of my TA experiment, and of course despite saying I wouldn’t, I pushed to to 60 mg eod and still zero sides other than very mild night sweats. BP is still normal. Running it with test / mast / GH and recently sprinkled in anavar.

I think whatever dosage of Tren you choose it’s really important to slowly increase over time. Like if you think you want to run 300 / week, might be a good idea not to start there. Start 20 mg EOD and slowly ramp it up.

Edit: when I say zero sides I’m not talking bloodwork. Getting drawn on Monday. I’m sure my HDL is in the gutter but also checking in on prolactin, cystatin C, and hsCRP along with the other standard metrics.

 

[bananafeet]

The funny thing about tren is it's good until it's not.

Almost everyone thinks they have gotten away without sides or found a manageable dosage.

If you want to microdose it would be easier with an insulin pen like the ergo2. 10-15mg can be done subq. That's what I do anyway.

 

[Mfras]

Tren e at 100/week is side effects free as far as mental emotional issues. I’ve ran it higher, and I never will again. Higher doses definitely increase paranoia, jealousy, and rage. If you're in a relationship, it's a great way to no longer be in a relationship.

Well I am past 100mg/week now- 35x7=245mg/week. The original plan was to stop at 300, not thinking I’d even get close. Maybe it is altering my brain chemistry more than I realize because 50/day seems like a really nice round number that’s easy to measure dunno if I’ll go to 350 or not.

At this point I’m kind of transitioning from expecting immediate nasty sides. I’m now wondering if I’ll see discomfort creep in as the poison builds up, and if there will be time to back off if I do before the 4-6 week planned max run ends and see if that cures them or if it’s the buildup that brings them on.

I can say that today was the first day I felt different in the gym. It was leg day and my lifts had a strange quality. It wasn’t like I went to squat like my normal and threw the barbell through the roof by mistake. It was more like I did the weights I usually lift, and felt the reps slow down as failure approached like normal.

I’d grind out that last one that I could get with good form, but then instead of being done my brain was like “fuck that bitch ass weight. You can lift it like five more times.” Then I did. And confidently like almost if I took 90 sec break not 3 sec.

So despite only having strung together a few years dedicated lifting recently after a long stretch I’m like an intermediate lifter I think. I do know how to lift hard and while I don’t try to kill myself to the point where I need extra rest days I’m also not a ‘reps in reserve’ guy. I try to get to failure around 6-12 on most moves. Some leg stuff 15-20 but I also like drop sets to finish sometimes.

The reason I’m saying all that is to provide context. On an NPP cycle I get stronger and recover faster and can sometimes double my recoverable stimulus. That feels different than this though- NPP the strength was just there, like an old 5 rep max turns into 8 and easy work.

I’ve read that tren has a strength component but also a cns or mind/muscle thing, or maybe it just makes you dumb and aggressive enough to just believe you can do it then you do it.

Leg day last week felt normal and I was the normal slightly crippled with doms for a few days. I’m really curious to see if these extra reps were just my drug addled brain pushing me super hard, or if the drug addled body will actually brush it off and want to do it again in a day or two? Or will I be skipping accessory hammies & calves on arm day because I destroyed them today?

Anyway, no godlike feeling, no irritability or short fuse, bedroom is lively, meal prep is done for the week and my chicken & beef jerky came out bangin.