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Loving my first go at tesamorelin

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Slicknyc

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Been using gear for over 30 years and recently cut back on my dosages of AAS and have tried a few different peptides. I really think Tesamorelin might be a gem. I’ve been running just 1mg per day and and have definitely noticed visible visceral fat loss after about 25 days so far. I’m also using MT2 which I believe also has some fat burning effect- but there are definitely some nice results happening. I’ve struggled with “roid gut” for years and for anyone also with this issue-
1. Cut test to 300mg/week . I also run primo at 400mg
2. Try tesamorelin

Not sure who else has roid gut but am interested in hearing from guys who do. For years I was fine but once I hit 50, it seems as though once I do even 500mgs of test , my body just reacts with water retention in the midsection. It’s now almost non existent.
 
I haven't tried Tesa yet, but Tirz/Reta works wonders for the visceral fat burning....Melanotan II also works as well.
 
Slicknyc said:
Been using gear for over 30 years and recently cut back on my dosages of AAS and have tried a few different peptides. I really think Tesamorelin might be a gem. I’ve been running just 1mg per day and and have definitely noticed visible visceral fat loss after about 25 days so far. I’m also using MT2 which I believe also has some fat burning effect- but there are definitely some nice results happening. I’ve struggled with “roid gut” for years and for anyone also with this issue-
1. Cut test to 300mg/week . I also run primo at 400mg
2. Try tesamorelin

Not sure who else has roid gut but am interested in hearing from guys who do. For years I was fine but once I hit 50, it seems as though once I do even 500mgs of test , my body just reacts with water retention in the midsection. It’s now almost non existent.
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Have you tried Tesa with a GHRP combined?
 
Musmadar said:
I haven't tried Tesa yet, but Tirz/Reta works wonders for the visceral fat burning....Melanotan II also works as well.
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How much did you take? To be honest i dont want the hunger supressive effect of Reta, i just want the fatburning.
(Why? Well because due to my meds my hunger is fucked uped anyways)
 
Proud Pangolin said:
How much did you take? To be honest i dont want the hunger supressive effect of Reta, i just want the fatburning.
(Why? Well because due to my meds my hunger is fucked uped anyways)
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Reta is way less aggressive on hunger suppression....I can eat almost normal.... it's just that I get filled way quicker .... Reta is kind of working in the background .... aside the hunger suppression.

I'm at 5mg/week currently.
 
Musmadar said:
Reta is way less aggressive on hunger suppression....I can eat almost normal.... it's just that I get filled way quicker .... Reta is kind of working in the background .... aside the hunger suppression.

I'm at 5mg/week currently.
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Do you inject once a week or do split it up and inject every day?
 
I used GH, then Tesa for a year, That's what Tesa is optimized for. Punching through visceral fat that's become resistant to hormone signaling so it doesn't release its fat. This happens with age, the longer visceral fat sits there the less responsive it becomes, and eventually fibrosis develops making it rock hard. It's also really bad for your health. Much more dangerous than subcutaneous.

The FDA indication for Tesa is specifically to counteract the psychological distress otherwise fit men experience from using anti-HIV drugs that cause rapid growth of visceral fat deposits. Otherwise lean guys with big guts.

Even though it boosts IGF like GH, the visceral fat reduction is Tesa's main effect, and the other GH like effects, better skin, nails, etc, are present but less pronounced and slower to come on than GH,

GH also reduces stubborn visceral fat, but takes large doses (and sides) to get the same rapid effect as Tesa.

Something about Tesa keeping natural pulsatile GH release that makes it so good at visceral fat annihilation. Tesa itself doesn't cause lose weight, the visceral fat just gets redistributed to areas it's
easier to lose with diet and exercise,

Since sides are minimal with Tesa, it's very safe, and timing of the dose is irrelevant (it just amplifies your natural GH release keeping the GH axis intact), it's a good starter for 35+ year olds. 6 months daily injections will almost effortlessly recomp a hardened gut, improve skin and hair, then transition to GH to maintain the visceral fat loss and expand benefits to other areas.

Funny thing is those visceral fat inducing anti-HIV drugs aren't really even used any more, but the pharmaceutical company keeps coming out with new, more concentrated (for easier injections)versions of Tesa (Egrifta). I suspect a lot of people are getting this prescribed off label, since it's illegal to prescribe rHGH for anything other than short children and adults with GH deficiency or muscle wasting.

Combined with Tirz or Reta, and TRT it's the most potent visceral fat reduction stack there is.

 
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Ghoul said:
I used GH, then Tesa for a year, That's what Tesa is optimized for. Punching through visceral fat that's become resistant to hormone signaling so it doesn't release its fat. This happens with age, the longer visceral fat sits there the less responsive it becomes, and eventually fibrosis develops making it rock hard. It's also really bad for your health. Much more dangerous than subcutaneous.

The FDA indication for Tesa is specifically to counteract the psychological distress otherwise fit men experience from using anti-HIV drugs that cause rapid growth of visceral fat deposits. Otherwise lean guys with big guts.

Even though it boosts IGF like GH, the visceral fat reduction is Tesa's main effect, and the other GH like effects, better skin, nails, etc, are present but less pronounced and slower to come on than GH,

GH also reduces stubborn visceral fat, but takes large doses (and sides) to get the same rapid effect as Tesa.

Something about Tesa keeping natural pulsatile GH release that makes it so good at visceral fat annihilation. Tesa itself doesn't cause lose weight, the visceral fat just gets redistributed to areas it's
easier to lose with diet and exercise,

Since sides are minimal with Tesa, it's very safe, and timing of the dose is irrelevant (it just amplifies your natural GH release keeping the GH axis intact), it's a good starter for 35+ year olds. 6 months daily injections will almost effortlessly recomp a hardened gut, improve skin and hair, then transition to GH to maintain the visceral fat loss and expand benefits to other areas.

Funny thing is those visceral fat inducing anti-HIV drugs aren't really even used any more, but the pharmaceutical company keeps coming out with new, more concentrated (for easier injections)versions of Tesa (Egrifta). I suspect a lot of people are getting this prescribed off label, since it's illegal to prescribe rHGH for anything other than short children and adults with GH deficiency or muscle wasting.

Combined with Tirz or Reta, and TRT it's the most potent visceral fat reduction stack there is.

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How often per day rid you inject? Because in the studys i have read tge injected once a day (1mg-2mg depending in the study).

Now, i have experience with CJC-1295 NO dac + GHRP-2. But this combination i injected 3x per day: 1. In the morning right before my 45min of fasted cardio 2.directly after the gym (on the gym toilet) and 3.right before turning off the lights

(I think the idea behind it is clear: in tge morning for the fatburning effect. After the gym for ("acute") recovery/pushing growth factors/somewhwat anabolic effect. Before sleep well for better sleep and also recovery aswell)

So now im thinking about using Tesamorelin instead of the CJC (as both are GHRH and Tesa seems a lot more promising for vizeral fat loss which is exactly what im trying to do) but im unsure if i should split up the dosage again in 3 or only inject once a day.

Especially if i combine the Tesamorelin again with a GHRP like GHRP-2 or Ipamorelin.
I guess that should amplify the effect of Tesamorelin. However in the studys only one injection per day was used. Which doenst mean its tge best routine as most people simply dont want to inject theselfs 3x a day and will drop out of the study.

Do you have experiences with other GHRH than Tesa and/or GHRPS like GHRP-2?



PS: You know what is really weird with Tesamorelin? Even though the half life is only like 30min (basiacally the same as CJC NO day and GHRP-2) a one time daily injection resulted in a increased basal GH level (between the pulses) aswell as longer peaks of the pulses!!

Which makes absolutely no sense tbh.
As a comparison with another GHRH:

- CJC-1295 DAC (no to be confused with CJC NO dac which i used) will also result in a elevated basal GH level. However CJC DAC has a half life of 5-8 days!!!

- CJC-1295 NO dac as well as all the GHRP's like GHRP-2 will result in a higher GH peak but only right after injecting, thats why you should inject 3x per day. However not really in longer pulses.

=> so basiacally neither the elevated basal GH level nor the longer GH peaks of the pulses from only one injection daily of Tesamorelin with a half life if 30min makes sense
 
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Ghoul said:
I used GH, then Tesa for a year, That's what Tesa is optimized for. Punching through visceral fat that's become resistant to hormone signaling so it doesn't release its fat. This happens with age, the longer visceral fat sits there the less responsive it becomes, and eventually fibrosis develops making it rock hard. It's also really bad for your health. Much more dangerous than subcutaneous.

The FDA indication for Tesa is specifically to counteract the psychological distress otherwise fit men experience from using anti-HIV drugs that cause rapid growth of visceral fat deposits. Otherwise lean guys with big guts.

Even though it boosts IGF like GH, the visceral fat reduction is Tesa's main effect, and the other GH like effects, better skin, nails, etc, are present but less pronounced and slower to come on than GH,

GH also reduces stubborn visceral fat, but takes large doses (and sides) to get the same rapid effect as Tesa.

Something about Tesa keeping natural pulsatile GH release that makes it so good at visceral fat annihilation. Tesa itself doesn't cause lose weight, the visceral fat just gets redistributed to areas it's
easier to lose with diet and exercise,

Since sides are minimal with Tesa, it's very safe, and timing of the dose is irrelevant (it just amplifies your natural GH release keeping the GH axis intact), it's a good starter for 35+ year olds. 6 months daily injections will almost effortlessly recomp a hardened gut, improve skin and hair, then transition to GH to maintain the visceral fat loss and expand benefits to other areas.

Funny thing is those visceral fat inducing anti-HIV drugs aren't really even used any more, but the pharmaceutical company keeps coming out with new, more concentrated (for easier injections)versions of Tesa (Egrifta). I suspect a lot of people are getting this prescribed off label, since it's illegal to prescribe rHGH for anything other than short children and adults with GH deficiency or muscle wasting.

Combined with Tirz or Reta, and TRT it's the most potent visceral fat reduction stack there is.

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This was very informative. Thank you.
 
For tesamorelin I'd recommend sticking to the protocols from clinical trials which means single dose at night before you head to bed of 1-2mg with at least an hour since you last ate.

If you want to try to make your tesamorelin stores last a bit longer you can use Dr. William Seeds' recommendation which is to pair 100mcg ipamorelin with 1mg tesamorelin for synergy.

I made great progress using Dr. Seeds' protocol, but my next run of tesamorelin will be a full 6-month cycle using 2mg every night.

Your mileage may vary.
 
bubba618 said:
For tesamorelin I'd recommend sticking to the protocols from clinical trials which means single dose at night before you head to bed of 1-2mg with at least an hour since you last ate.

If you want to try to make your tesamorelin stores last a bit longer you can use Dr. William Seeds' recommendation which is to pair 100mcg ipamorelin with 1mg tesamorelin for synergy.

I made great progress using Dr. Seeds' protocol, but my next run of tesamorelin will be a full 6-month cycle using 2mg every night.

Your mileage may vary.
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The doing it fasted thing is a rough one for me. I eat constantly every 2-3 hours so im never really fasted except upon waking.

Ive been using 2mg tesamorelin in the AM because of this. Can't really comment on its effectiveness tbh
 
Ghoul said:
I used GH, then Tesa for a year, That's what Tesa is optimized for. Punching through visceral fat that's become resistant to hormone signaling so it doesn't release its fat. This happens with age, the longer visceral fat sits there the less responsive it becomes, and eventually fibrosis develops making it rock hard. It's also really bad for your health. Much more dangerous than subcutaneous.

The FDA indication for Tesa is specifically to counteract the psychological distress otherwise fit men experience from using anti-HIV drugs that cause rapid growth of visceral fat deposits. Otherwise lean guys with big guts.

Even though it boosts IGF like GH, the visceral fat reduction is Tesa's main effect, and the other GH like effects, better skin, nails, etc, are present but less pronounced and slower to come on than GH,

GH also reduces stubborn visceral fat, but takes large doses (and sides) to get the same rapid effect as Tesa.

Something about Tesa keeping natural pulsatile GH release that makes it so good at visceral fat annihilation. Tesa itself doesn't cause lose weight, the visceral fat just gets redistributed to areas it's
easier to lose with diet and exercise,

Since sides are minimal with Tesa, it's very safe, and timing of the dose is irrelevant (it just amplifies your natural GH release keeping the GH axis intact), it's a good starter for 35+ year olds. 6 months daily injections will almost effortlessly recomp a hardened gut, improve skin and hair, then transition to GH to maintain the visceral fat loss and expand benefits to other areas.

Funny thing is those visceral fat inducing anti-HIV drugs aren't really even used any more, but the pharmaceutical company keeps coming out with new, more concentrated (for easier injections)versions of Tesa (Egrifta). I suspect a lot of people are getting this prescribed off label, since it's illegal to prescribe rHGH for anything other than short children and adults with GH deficiency or muscle wasting.

Combined with Tirz or Reta, and TRT it's the most potent visceral fat reduction stack there is.

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For blood sugar control, would metformin or reta be better?

Also what are your thoughts on adding ipamorelin alongside tesa?
 
benfrankparkway said:
For blood sugar control, would metformin or reta be better?

Also what are your thoughts on adding ipamorelin alongside tesa?
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You'll get better results overall with initial loading doses of tirzepatide and probably retatrutide than you'll get with metformin. That said, they operate differently, so they could be used in combination if needed or desired.

If you are maximizing fat loss, go for the 2mg tesamorelin nightly. If cost is a factor, dropping from 2mg down to 1mg and adding a GHRP like ipamorelin will get you most of the benefit of the 2mg tesamorelin for a lot less money.

You're talking about stimulating endogenous GH production, and you'll get a greater spike combining a GHRH like tesamorelin or CJC-1295 with a GHRP like ipamorelin. You can use other GHRPs, but ipamorelin is the most recent GHRP which provides its benefits with minimal sides making it ideal for pairing with other GH secretagogues.
 
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