Loving my first go at tesamorelin

[Proud Pangolin]

I would advise to pair it with Ipamorelin to get the most out of it.

2mg of Tesamorelin + 300-400mcq of Ipamorelin

Or the budget version: 1mg of Ipamorelin -300-400 Ipamorelin OR you coule switch the Ipamorelin with 100mcq of GHRP-2 whivh is significant cheaper.

So the question is: whats your budget?

Best option would be 2mg of Tesamorelin + Ipamorelin

GHRP-2 is a significant cheaper alternative to Ipamorelin but could raise Prolactin/Cortisol. However i didnt notice any sideeffects besides hunger from GHRP-2 which is actually the best argument against it.


Little extra advise: if you want to max. out the tesamorelin effects even further take 30-45min before taking the Tesamorelin 6-12g l-arginine/l-citrulline as it supresses soma in studys or/and 3000mg of GABA.

Both is dirt cheap.

(However some get a nasty side effect from to much gaba (like me) which feels like an astha attack. Totally harmless but bery unpleasent to be short of breath)

 

[ctsv]

Are there 10 ml vials of Tesamorelin sold anywhere? I may be blind as a bat but I'm only finding small vials.

 

[Ghoul]

Are there 10 ml vials of Tesamorelin sold anywhere? I may be blind as a bat but I'm only finding small vials.

Yes it's common.

Post this question in the underground and you can get a direct answer. We're not allowed to discuss sources outside of the UG.

 

[Ironhorse]

Been using gear for over 30 years and recently cut back on my dosages of AAS and have tried a few different peptides. I really think Tesamorelin might be a gem. I’ve been running just 1mg per day and and have definitely noticed visible visceral fat loss after about 25 days so far. I’m also using MT2 which I believe also has some fat burning effect- but there are definitely some nice results happening. I’ve struggled with “roid gut” for years and for anyone also with this issue-
1. Cut test to 300mg/week . I also run primo at 400mg
2. Try tesamorelin

Not sure who else has roid gut but am interested in hearing from guys who do. For years I was fine but once I hit 50, it seems as though once I do even 500mgs of test , my body just reacts with water retention in the midsection. It’s now almost non existent.

I agree wholeheartedly. Tesamorelin is an amazing peptide. Expensive in some cases, but worth it. Anyone who wants to cut and hasn’t tried it, should.

 

[Ghoul]

I agree wholeheartedly. Tesamorelin is an amazing peptide. Expensive in some cases, but worth it. Anyone who wants to cut and hasn’t tried it, should.

Even when using rHGH, which causes GH receptors to downregulate eventually requiring higher doses for it to continue to work like it did initially, if you switch to Tesa for 3-6 months you maintain the GH benefits and by returning to a natural pattern of low level GH pulses (instead of long exposure from exogenous GH), receptors are resensitized. When you switch back to rHGH, it's as effective at the initial dose you ran it at previously.

The savings you get by needing less rHGH negate the slightly higher price per day of running Tesa.

 

[Photon]

Even when using rHGH, which causes GH receptors to downregulate eventually requiring higher doses for it to continue to work like it did initially, if you switch to Tesa for 3-6 months you maintain the GH benefits and by returning to a natural pattern of low level GH pulses (instead of long exposure from exogenous GH), receptors are resensitized. When you switch back to rHGH, it's as effective at the initial dose you ran it at previously.

The savings you get by needing less rHGH negate the slightly higher price per day of running Tesa.

Do you reckon there's any further benefit to be gained from switching to tesa for visceral fat reduction from someone who's already running a high dose hgh and reta (18+mg/week)?

I know hgh isn't as effective as tesa for visceral fat reduction but reta has been shown to be pretty effective.

 

[sionnach]

Do you reckon there's any further benefit to be gained from switching to tesa for visceral fat reduction from someone who's already running a high dose hgh and reta (18+mg/week)?

I don't.

I know hgh isn't as effective as tesa for visceral fat reduction but reta has been shown to be pretty effective.

Reta is king vs visceral fat.

 

[Ghoul]

Do you reckon there's any further benefit to be gained from switching to tesa for visceral fat reduction from someone who's already running a high dose hgh and reta (18+mg/week)?

I know hgh isn't as effective as tesa for visceral fat reduction but reta has been shown to be pretty effective.

Yes.

I dove deeply into this a while ago because I noticed "Stubborn" visceral fat seems to remain to some degree in most men over 30, almost regardless of how lean they get, or how much rHGH they use, they don't recover that "concave" youthful gut.

TLDR, long standing decades old visceral fat eventually becomes "deaf" to lipolytic signals that should cause those adipose cells to release FFAs. Some will even become fibrotic eventually, the same way the liver scars, and becomes extremely resistant.

rHGH *can* punch through some of this at high enough doses and with enough time, however, the amount of rHGH needed eventually becomes an impediment because it drives the few remaining GH receptors on this "senile adipose" into desensitization before enough time has elapsed to make those cells release fat.

When you're down to that highly resistant "deep core* visceral fat after getting lean while using rHGH, a few months of Tesa can demolish it, since the receptors are constantly given breaks to recover, maintaining sensitivity to lipolysis. The visceral fibrotic tissue won't go away once it's developed, but the fatty contents can be drained this way and it's like an empty sack, no longer pushing your gut forward,

PS: Tirz helps in this process because it improves insulin sensitivity. TLDR shorter exposure time to insulin as a result of improved insulin sensitivity allows GH induced lipolysis to work more effectively.

 

[NotNattyDaddy]

With the recent crackdown what source sells ipamorelin at a good price as I was about to place an order with ssa

 

[bubba618]

With the recent crackdown what source sells ipamorelin at a good price as I was about to place an order with ssa

Look around and find out. It should take you all of 5 minutes or less.

 

[Johnnyboy731]

I haven't tried Tesa yet, but Tirz/Reta works wonders for the visceral fat burning....Melanotan II also works as well.

I was just looking into doing this! Are you running Triz/reta together? I was doing Reta 6mg was perfect for maybe 3 weeks. People were asking if I was done with my cut. I stopped for two weeks crazy insane insatiable appetite and then when I started up again 6m … 10mg 12mg. It’s not curbing my hunger by much. I’m easily eating 3k a day. I just ordered a kit of triz and Reta to try 50/50 mix. Is that what you’re doing?

 

[Musmadar]

I was just looking into doing this! Are you running Triz/reta together? I was doing Reta 6mg was perfect for maybe 3 weeks. People were asking if I was done with my cut. I stopped for two weeks crazy insane insatiable appetite and then when I started up again 6m … 10mg 12mg. It’s not curbing my hunger by much. I’m easily eating 3k a day. I just ordered a kit of triz and Reta to try 50/50 mix. Is that what you’re doing?

Not using it right now — I don’t need that much hunger suppression.

I’m eating a lot because of another compound, but I’m not worried… 4 mg/week of Reta keeps me on track.

At the end of the day, the best addition to any stack is simple: Patience + Consistency.

 

[S1L3NC3D]

I have been running Tesa + Ipa for going on 3 months now. I bought the Tesa kits and Ipa kits so I control my dose.

When i starter after running Reta 2mg a week for about a month. I introduced Tesa at 2mg before bed fasted for about a week and noticed horrible migraines every morning when I woke up. I also tried 2mg in the morning fasted with cardio, same results. I backed the Tesa down to 1.4 mgs and the headaches went away. Once I had that dialed in I introduced 500 mcg of Ipa with no negative sides.
Combined Reta and Tesa + Ipa Ive had excellent results as far as visceral and subcutaneous fat loss.

 

[benfrankparkway]

I have been running Tesa + Ipa for going on 3 months now. I bought the Tesa kits and Ipa kits so I control my dose.

When i starter after running Reta 2mg a week for about a month. I introduced Tesa at 2mg before bed fasted for about a week and noticed horrible migraines every morning when I woke up. I also tried 2mg in the morning fasted with cardio, same results. I backed the Tesa down to 1.4 mgs and the headaches went away. Once I had that dialed in I introduced 500 mcg of Ipa with no negative sides.
Combined Reta and Tesa + Ipa Ive had excellent results as far as visceral and subcutaneous fat loss.

Have you done blood work for igf-1 levels since being on tesa/ipa... I am on the same combo.

 

[S1L3NC3D]

Have you done blood work for igf-1 levels since being on tesa/ipa... I am on the same combo.

I have a few days ago . Waiting for my results. Once I receive it I will happy to share results if your interested

 

[benfrankparkway]

I have a few days ago . Waiting for my results. Once I receive it I will happy to share results if your interested

yes please share. How did you conduct the testing. For instance with GH test it is advised to inject 10iu 3 hours prior to testing. Was there any sort of method to dosing and testing for tesa/ipa?

 

[Ateam2023]

Even when using rHGH, which causes GH receptors to downregulate eventually requiring higher doses for it to continue to work like it did initially, if you switch to Tesa for 3-6 months you maintain the GH benefits and by returning to a natural pattern of low level GH pulses (instead of long exposure from exogenous GH), receptors are resensitized. When you switch back to rHGH, it's as effective at the initial dose you ran it at previously.

The savings you get by needing less rHGH negate the slightly higher price per day of running Tesa.

i was seriously considering doing a tesa run , and "reset" on hgh, but now that im taking reta , i think that might help my hgh related bg levels getting higher than i like ? Im mixed on this though

 

[Proud Pangolin]

i was seriously considering doing a tesa run , and "reset" on hgh, but now that im taking reta , i think that might help my hgh related bg levels getting higher than i like ? Im mixed on this though

I just want to chip in and say: as long as you dont care about sq injections try 3x daily GHRH+ GHRP. Best protocoll would be something like
Morning: CJC no DAC + GHRP-2

Directly after your workout: CJC no DAC + GHRP-2

Rifht before bed: 2mg Tesamorelin + 400mcq Ipamorelin

I think you will be surprised how good the results are while you GH receptors can reset

(Basically switching every CJC no DAC with Tesamorelin would be best but for me 6mg of Tesamorelin per day is simply to expensive and as Tesa not only results in ONE higher peak but a higher basal GH level and higher peaks in the coming 6h in generel.

However: you would want these higher peakS(!) during night time and if you train in the afternoon this could weaken the effect of the bedtime dosages. Just one concern i want to throw in.

Thats also one if the reason why i choose Ipamorelin for the night time dosage as its metabolites are a lot longer present which MAY result in a longer desens. of receptors as these can only reboute when no metabolite is present anymore.

This is very very theoretical though and only some precautions im taling. Doenst have to be true at all but the literature isnt clear enough about this. Also the second (and very big reason) for choosing GHRP-2 over Impamorelin is the price. GHRP-2 Iis significant cheaper tha Ipa and you need like 4x the amount of Ipa to achieve saturation dosage.

All this beeing said, if i could afford it i would still at least run Tesamorelin instead of CJC in every dosage.

Little extra advise if you want to get all out of it: about 30/45mins before your night dosage take 12g of arginine or l-citrulline as it will inhibit Soma even more. Also, you could take 3600mg of GABA. I only take 1500mg of GABA and not for the GH but for sleep as i get nasty astma attacke from so much GABA. Its a know sideeffect, totally harmless but very unpleasent never the less.

However im not taking arginin/citrulline myself for this purpose simply because im using it as a pump booster and im building tolerance to it, so yeah i want that stuff for my pumps. If you dont however, that would be a cheap option to furthe boost your peptides)

 

[benfrankparkway]

i was seriously considering doing a tesa run , and "reset" on hgh, but now that im taking reta , i think that might help my hgh related bg levels getting higher than i like ? Im mixed on this though

why couldnt you run reta with Tesa? I was actually considering running reta with tesa just to keep blood sugar in check over the natural supplements (berberine) i am taking

 

[benfrankparkway]

I just want to chip in and say: as long as you dont care about sq injections try 3x daily GHRH+ GHRP. Best protocoll would be something like
Morning: CJC no DAC + GHRP-2

Directly after your workout: CJC no DAC + GHRP-2

Rifht before bed: 2mg Tesamorelin + 400mcq Ipamorelin

I think you will be surprised how good the results are while you GH receptors can reset

(Basically switching every CJC no DAC with Tesamorelin would be best but for me 6mg of Tesamorelin per day is simply to expensive and as Tesa not only results in ONE higher peak but a higher basal GH level and higher peaks in the coming 6h in generel.

However: you would want these higher peakS(!) during night time and if you train in the afternoon this could weaken the effect of the bedtime dosages. Just one concern i want to throw in.

Thats also one if the reason why i choose Ipamorelin for the night time dosage as its metabolites are a lot longer present which MAY result in a longer desens. of receptors as these can only reboute when no metabolite is present anymore.

This is very very theoretical though and only some precautions im taling. Doenst have to be true at all but the literature isnt clear enough about this. Also the second (and very big reason) for choosing GHRP-2 over Impamorelin is the price. GHRP-2 Iis significant cheaper tha Ipa and you need like 4x the amount of Ipa to achieve saturation dosage.

All this beeing said, if i could afford it i would still at least run Tesamorelin instead of CJC in every dosage.

Little extra advise if you want to get all out of it: about 30/45mins before your night dosage take 12g of arginine or l-citrulline as it will inhibit Soma even more. Also, you could take 3600mg of GABA. I only take 1500mg of GABA and not for the GH but for sleep as i get nasty astma attacke from so much GABA. Its a know sideeffect, totally harmless but very unpleasent never the less.

However im not taking arginin/citrulline myself for this purpose simply because im using it as a pump booster and im building tolerance to it, so yeah i want that stuff for my pumps. If you dont however, that would be a cheap option to furthe boost your peptides)

interesting take to addon's to boosting peptides effects. What about other soma inhibiting supplements like the choline's or huperzine. Also, with what effectiveness do these work, wish i could run an experiment and blood work with the additions you mentioned and see its impact on my tesa run.