LET'S TALK ABOUT CARBOHYDRATES

So your last meal is around 11:00 pm. I take it your pwo shake is right when you're done working out.

What time do you go to sleep and wake up?

*I'm trying gather info and apply it to my situation.*
 
So your last meal is around 11:00 pm. I take it your pwo shake is right when you're done working out.

What time do you go to sleep and wake up?

*I'm trying gather info and apply it to my situation.*

I go to sleep at around 11:30. Wake up at 6am. I train two days on the weekdays and Saturday and Sunday.

Ask away :)
 
What do you normally eat? Plus I see you workout early in the am. I started my workouts around 7-8:00 pm

I'm wondering how much time of day workouts are influenced by carb intake.

I've now started taking pineapples a few minutes before my night time/pwo shakes
Since I hit it very early the rest of the day is fair game. Ill be burning those carbs all day long after my workout and later at work. I take fruit immediately PWO with shake and complex carbs with all my regularly scheduled diet plan.

Another benefit to adding fruit is fibrous intake. Good for the butthole:)
 
Did two years of low carb... Lost hella weight and didn't feel that great. Good abs and a lighter load on my knees were the only real positives. Gains in the gym are so much easier to come by with my carbs higher.
 
Did two years of low carb... Lost hella weight and didn't feel that great. Good abs and a lighter load on my knees were the only real positives. Gains in the gym are so much easier to come by with my carbs higher.

Slowly adding back carbs in now. And slowing down on cardio.
 
I'm going to add HIIT cardio to burn those hard to reach areas. But then again, I was talking to this guy who's into physique competition and he told me it's all about the "Stairmaster". No treadmill, no elliptical, no nothing.....just the stairmaster. I've never seen a guy this ripped before.

@gr8whitetrukker...I looked up fiburous fruits & veggies through Google search and I like what I saw...lots of good variety
 
I'm going to add HIIT cardio to burn those hard to reach areas. But then again, I was talking to this guy who's into physique competition and he told me it's all about the "Stairmaster". No treadmill, no elliptical, no nothing.....just the stairmaster. I've never seen a guy this ripped before.



There is a trainer at my gym that competes in physique. He competed at the Olympia this year in his class. But all he ever does is the stairmaster. That's the only cardio I've seen him do ever.
 
So I've heard this....
After working out take your post work out shake at around 40-60 minutes. You should not consume any carbs at this time. Then 40-60 minutes after your pwo, have a pwo meal (no carbs...iirc). The reason for this is after working out, the body is in fat burning mode, not muscle building. The body is using free floating fatty acids or fat deposits as fuel. If carbs are consumed during this time it stops the body from using fatty acids/deposits for energy. Thus inhibiting fat loss

I also read the best time to consume complex carbs is around bed time. Reasoning behind this has to deal with insulin resistance /sensitivity.

I'll try to link it


What do you guys think about the above statement. Lmk

Respectfully
 
Ive never heard going to sleep with a belly full of carbs to be a good thing? I gain alot of weight like that

It's not just any carbs, but more complex & fiburous carbs. When our bodies are rest at night (6-9 hours), where's it getting energy from? You ever notice how you look smaller in the morning vs. Afternoon? At rest your body is getting it's energy from your muscles, not much else.

Ingesting complex carbs looks to spare muscle catabolism.

I'm looking at how insulin sensitivity (higher or low) and carb intake speeds up or slows down fat loss while preserving muscle mass.

I think it's the carb back loading and or carb night solution. I don't follow it myself but it has gotten to be very popular.

Don't know what they call it, but it's an interesting approach to a common goal we have.
 
Whomever wrote that is missing the forest for the trees...
I don't think it quite that far off. Our problem is that we want to know how our bodies react to our diets, workout, etc.. (right now) unfortunately we have to wait weeks or months to see if what we have done worked....or was a waste of time.

^^hope that makes sense...lol^^

By going over your older post in this thread...it seems we agree or have the same thoughts on most subjects.

@Xlgx besides the carbs at pwo...it looks like (somewhat) you do eat complex carbs some time before bed....right?●

I'm not talking about a ton of carbs..:)
 
I don't think it quite that far off. Our problem is that we want to know how our bodies react to our diets, workout, etc.. (right now) unfortunately we have to wait weeks or months to see if what we have done worked....or was a waste of time.

^^hope that makes sense...lol^^

By going over your older post in this thread...it seems we agree or have the same thoughts on most subjects.

@Xlgx besides the carbs at pwo...it looks like (somewhat) you do eat complex carbs some time before bed....right?●

I'm not talking about a ton of carbs..:)

I think I understand what you're saying.

What I'm saying is that while technically what was said is correct, how much, if at all, does it matter in the big picture?

For example, for long duration exercise, the body uses oxidative metabolism to create ATP from fatty acids and oxygen. For shorter more intense exercise it will use a mix of oxidative and glycolotic metabolism to create the ATP. In an all out 100% effort for very short duration it will use glycolotic metabolism. This is correct but ask yourself what does it matter.

Fat loss is a product of how much fat you store in relation to how much you use. The author or whomever wrote what you were reading is only concentrating on the one half of the equation. If you use fat as a fuel source what happens to all the carbs you eat? If you use carbs as the fuel source what happens to the dietary fat?

I'm going to start rambling so I'll just link an article I think you would enjoy reading. This guy is one of the brightest in the field and looks at the big picture. There's several parts to it, when you get to the bottom it'll link you to parts 2 and 3.

http://alanaragon.com/myths-under-the-microscope-the-fat-burning-zone-fasted-cardio.html

Yes I think we generally see eye to eye on a great deal of things. One thing I will say in favor of carbs during a workout, or before or after for hat matter, is that carbs are anti-catabolic (they inhibit proteolysis), carbs are the most efficient fuel source for high intensity training since it uses the glycolotic pathway, carbs do not effect lipolysis in trained individuals generally, and carbs will usually allow for better workouts.
 
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