Lat thickness

No exercises make a muscle “thick” vs “wide” as people like to claim. Your lat width is a largely function of your structure and insertion. The “thickness” you’re after is going to be development based.

in my opinion/experience rows are superior to pulldowns for lat development. Barbell, dB, Meadows, and machine. Mix up the angles, track weights and reps, and use activations if needed to get them firing.
I fall to this side of things too. Rows over pulldowns. Not necessarily to the exclusion of pulldowns, but more volume and exercises for rows. High, low, close, wide, machine, barbell, dumbbell, etc..

I also constantly flip the scripts in the order such that one workout I am doing 300 lbs barbell rows at the start and the next I am down to 135lb at the end.
 
I made a definite visual change to my back over a 5 year period that I attribute to one exercise.

Barbell rows. Overhand. Pull low into the groin area. Get the elbows back and squeeze the lats, lower, stretch, and go again.

I never did those when I was younger, and I wish I had.
 
I made a definite visual change to my back over a 5 year period that I attribute to one exercise.

Barbell rows. Overhand. Pull low into the groin area. Get the elbows back and squeeze the lats, lower, stretch, and go again.

I never did those when I was younger, and I wish I had.
i used to do bb rows bent pretty far over and pull to around the bottom of my sternum. I recently changed to just slightly bent and pratically dragging the bar up my thighs to the groin area. It feels totallly different and i like it.
 
I made a definite visual change to my back over a 5 year period that I attribute to one exercise.

Barbell rows. Overhand. Pull low into the groin area. Get the elbows back and squeeze the lats, lower, stretch, and go again.

I never did those when I was younger, and I wish I had.
I think I can agree with that, I think those barbell rows and the close grip or v handle bar pull downs are the movements I tend to feel the most activation
 
I love me some barbell rows.

Cheaty ones where you put on your belt and give it hell with lots of body English are great and so are lighter weight strict rows.

I like to do 3 sets of 6-8 as heavy as I can and then do 2 AMRAP sets with lighter weight to really get the old back screaming.
 
Like I said, I wish I had known about them when I was younger. I worked up to 315 for sets of 8, but then I started experiencing a problem with my left bicep, especially where it attaches at the forearm. Old age and bodybuilding don't seem to go together all that well.
 
Like I said, I wish I had known about them when I was younger. I worked up to 315 for sets of 8, but then I started experiencing a problem with my left bicep, especially where it attaches at the forearm. Old age and bodybuilding don't seem to go together all that well.
Strap up my man. There’s no shame in it. I have the same issue and that fixed it for me.

I also have one of those tendinitis forearm wraps that I use for grip-intensive pulling. The thing is magical.
 
Best exercises in your experience to increase thickness in the lats? Mine are pretty wide, but I don’t feel that they’re super thick, would like to get some input from my brothers here on what I can do to change that.

First off when trying to activate stubborn muscle groups I like to switch up the movements every 4 weeks so keep that in mind. To accelerate lat growth this is what I suggest. Hit back twice per week, day 1 is for heavy weight and day 2 is for high reps.

Day 1, 3 sets per/ 8 reps/max weight with proper form
Day 2, 3 sets per/20 reps/50-75% of max weight with proper form

Start with reverse grip pulldowns
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Next up smith machine bent over rows
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Then reverse grip seated rows
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And finish off with straight arm rope pushdowns
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First off when trying to activate stubborn muscle groups I like to switch up the movements every 4 weeks so keep that in mind. To accelerate lat growth this is what I suggest. Hit back twice per week, day 1 is for heavy weight and day 2 is for high reps.

Day 1, 3 sets per/ 8 reps/max weight with proper form
Day 2, 3 sets per/20 reps/50-75% of max weight with proper form

Start with reverse grip pulldowns
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Next up smith machine bent over rows
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Then reverse grip seated rows
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And finish off with straight arm rope pushdowns
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Seems like some pretty low volume, am I doing to many excersises? Back day for me is
Meadows rows
Lat pulldown
Straight arm pulldowns
Pull ups
Seated rows
Reverse flys
Dumbbell pull overs
 
Seems like some pretty low volume, am I doing to many excersises? Back day for me is
Meadows rows
Lat pulldown
Straight arm pulldowns
Pull ups
Seated rows
Reverse flys
Dumbbell pull overs

I'd say you are most likely over training. What I posted seems easy, but it's twice a week don't forget and after 4 weeks you switch to 4 different movements. I'm all for killing it in the gym, but usually less is more!

Give it a try and don't add in more sets/reps/movements lol :)
 
First off when trying to activate stubborn muscle groups I like to switch up the movements every 4 weeks so keep that in mind. To accelerate lat growth this is what I suggest. Hit back twice per week, day 1 is for heavy weight and day 2 is for high reps.

Day 1, 3 sets per/ 8 reps/max weight with proper form
Day 2, 3 sets per/20 reps/50-75% of max weight with proper form

Start with reverse grip pulldowns
View attachment 148190

Next up smith machine bent over rows
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Then reverse grip seated rows
View attachment 148193

And finish off with straight arm rope pushdowns
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I want to pick up a smith machine with a decent crossover, but I’m also a little torn between just a regular crossover because I like the width between each side better.
 
Brother I did solid back workout tonight. Lightened the weight up just a bit. Really slowed down and concentrated on no bicep use and pulled through with elbows like you discussed and man could I feel the difference. Been back home for an hour and back is still tight. Thank you very much for taking time out of your day to explain that. It sure helped me
 
I made a definite visual change to my back over a 5 year period that I attribute to one exercise.

Barbell rows. Overhand. Pull low into the groin area. Get the elbows back and squeeze the lats, lower, stretch, and go again.

I never did those when I was younger, and I wish I had.

What are your feelings on underhanded barbell rows. Better, worse or indifferent?
 
What are your feelings on underhanded barbell rows. Better, worse or indifferent?
Sorry, don't do them or haven't regularly done them, so I cannot give any real insight. I did not like the way they feel, and with the bicep issues I have had I don't think it would be a good idea to make then a regular habit.

I do regularly incorporate a wide grip underhand cable row, low and into the groin, that gives me a good contraction in my lats, elbows pulled back hard.
 
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