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No exercises make a muscle “thick” vs “wide” as people like to claim. Your lat width is a largely function of your structure and insertion. The “thickness” you’re after is going to be development based.Best exercises in your experience to increase thickness in the lats? Mine are pretty wide, but I don’t feel that they’re super thick, would like to get some input from my brothers here on what I can do to change that.
Weird, I feel like they keep getting wider, but not getting a whole lot thicker.No exercises make a muscle “thick” vs “wide.” Your lat width is a largely function of your structure and insertion. The “thickness” you’re after is going to be development based.
in my opinion/experience rows are superior to pulldowns for lat development. Barbell, dB, Meadows, and machine. Mix up the angles, track weights and reps, and use activations if needed to get them firing.
Thanks for your reply, I’ll apply those tips to my training.No exercises make a muscle “thick” vs “wide” as people like to claim. Your lat width is a largely function of your structure and insertion. The “thickness” you’re after is going to be development based.
in my opinion/experience rows are superior to pulldowns for lat development. Barbell, dB, Meadows, and machine. Mix up the angles, track weights and reps, and use activations if needed to get them firing.
The muscle can appear wider as it fills out between insertions, but no exercise will actually move your lats wider. The muscle grows between the insertion points. I have seen “thickness” come as a muscle maturity thing (namely on myself) but I also focus very heavily on lat development and the rest of my back takes care of itself.Weird, I feel like they keep getting wider, but not getting a whole lot thicker.
What's a typical back workout look like for you?Best exercises in your experience to increase thickness in the lats? Mine are pretty wide, but I don’t feel that they’re super thick, would like to get some input from my brothers here on what I can do to change that.
Wide grip lat pull downs, and either close grip, or underhand grip pull downs, some lever gym rows, then some barbell back rows.What's a typical back workout look like for you?
I'd definitely add in some meadows rows, pullovers, and some T bar rows.Wide grip lat pull downs, and either close grip, or underhand grip pull downs, some lever gym rows, then some barbell back rows.
I’m lacking in the pull up department.Pull-ups, meadows rows, seated rows, chest supported rows, barbell pullovers, straight arm pulldowns… all of those are good. Just make sure that you’re initiating the movement with your back and driving with your elbows to limit bicep involvement.
Buy a set of bands. Loop one over the bar and stand in the other loop. It lessens the difficulty while still allowing you to perfect the movement and progress toward doing them full body weight.I’m lacking in the pull up department.
^^^^^ This. I got a set of the bands from elite fts, been doing 3 sets to failure with the medium band every back work out. That and hitting back twice a week has been a huge game changer for me. My back has been blowing up the last couple months. My back routine isBuy a set of bands. Loop one over the bar and stand in the other loop. It lessens the difficulty while still allowing you to perfect the movement and progress toward doing them full body weight.
Pull-ups/chins are well worth the time investment to get good at, IMO. I don’t know anyone who is proficient at pull-ups who doesn’t have a huge back.
Never done barbell pullovers. I'll be trying that next back day.Pull-ups, meadows rows, seated rows, chest supported rows, barbell pullovers, straight arm pulldowns… all of those are good. Just make sure that you’re initiating the movement with your back and driving with your elbows to limit bicep involvement.
I do that as well with heavy pulling. It really helps to take your arms out of the movement.Never done barbell pullovers. I'll be trying that next back day.
I definitely do not have a big back I'm relation to many guys here.
However I find the easiest way to feel my bsck is using wrist straps on my pulling movements. I can take concentration away from having to grip the bar and put it all towards contracting my back
I remember @griwhitetruker had a great write up on lat engagement in I think the who's the biggest thread. But I think it's been deleted when he left. Hey @Millard when people leave or are banned are their posts removed? I tried searching a thread with Griwhitetrukers name and it won't populate in the search menuI do that as well with heavy pulling. It really helps to take your arms out of the movement.
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