Foreveryoung456
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According to Reddit, Kali Muscle is hospitalized due to a heart attack
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Foreveryoung456
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Was Kali natty?
canadian mutant
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Well, he’s natty right, so at least we won’t be having the classic “juice kills” narrative
canadian mutant
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Claims it. But no way
Blacks are already at a higher risk for heart disease.
Rich Piana should have been the warning to all of these youtube stars that there comes a day that you have to walk away if you want to live. Of course if you don't then keep going until you croak.
I do find it kind of overwhelming at this point with all these guys killing off in between 45-52. They are giving steroids a bad rap and unfortunately, it only looks like they'll remain illegal indefinitely, as long as guys don't take their foot off the gas when they hit 40, they'll be piling up case studies to keep the steroids painted in a negative light.
Once you're past 40, TRT, some mild compounds like mast, deca are fine in lower doses. Your days of a Dbol preworkout are long over.
Rich Piana should have been the warning to all of these youtube stars that there comes a day that you have to walk away if you want to live. Of course if you don't then keep going until you croak.
I do find it kind of overwhelming at this point with all these guys killing off in between 45-52. They are giving steroids a bad rap and unfortunately, it only looks like they'll remain illegal indefinitely, as long as guys don't take their foot off the gas when they hit 40, they'll be piling up case studies to keep the steroids painted in a negative light.
Once you're past 40, TRT, some mild compounds like mast, deca are fine in lower doses. Your days of a Dbol preworkout are long over.
Foreveryoung456
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Guys like KM, RP & CT have "had" huge social media followers. It's difficult for "us" to know when to pump the brakes. I'm 43. I'm planning a blast very soon. I'm now reconcidering how much and what I will use. I'm definitely gonna re-think it. I was gonna do 750 test, however I'm now thinking more like 500. Not even sure if it's safe to run tren anymore.
Foreveryoung456
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Same with O'Hearn
fooba
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You're at the age where you don't really feel age.
Wait until you're 48, 49, 50+ and then you'll feel age. That's when the body starts getting stiff and doesn't rebound from damage.
I'd recommend no blast and going with 250/week, forget the AI and make slower longer lasting gains that you can continue with.
And honestly I'm starting to think we should all check in with a cardiologist if you have the resources when you're getting close to 50.
I haven't watched Kali in a long time, it looks like he's got some mental issues if you ask me.
There's a video of him pulling a knife at Golds in Venice after he gets kicked out.
Also looks like he's got something against white people as well as he sees everything as racist.
Time for Kali to grow up and start acting like a man instead of a 50 year old child.
There's a video of him pulling a knife at Golds in Venice after he gets kicked out.
Also looks like he's got something against white people as well as he sees everything as racist.
Time for Kali to grow up and start acting like a man instead of a 50 year old child.
I’m 41 and when I run anything on top of TRT I barely notice a difference in my look. The shit just doesn’t do much for me anymore, I can look really good with just 200mg a wk TRT and a tight diet
Looks like Kali eats a garbage fast food diet. These foods are extremely inflammatory and will damage and deposit fat to arteries.
You can't eat shit like fast food burgers, pizza, fried chicken, fried foods period. Every time you do this the body has to put out a fire and even though a 25 year old can eat this garbage and get away with it, when you're older Kali should have known just based on experience of how bad you feel after eating this stuff.
At my older age I can't eat anything that isn't clean or my blood pressure shoots up. If I stick to baked salmon, sweet potatoes, broccoli I feel fantastic. I eat some pizza I feel like dog shit and I know what's happening in my blood as my plasma fills up with toxic lipids to the point it looks like crisco.
You can't eat shit like fast food burgers, pizza, fried chicken, fried foods period. Every time you do this the body has to put out a fire and even though a 25 year old can eat this garbage and get away with it, when you're older Kali should have known just based on experience of how bad you feel after eating this stuff.
At my older age I can't eat anything that isn't clean or my blood pressure shoots up. If I stick to baked salmon, sweet potatoes, broccoli I feel fantastic. I eat some pizza I feel like dog shit and I know what's happening in my blood as my plasma fills up with toxic lipids to the point it looks like crisco.
BCBuilder
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100% left ventricular artery blockage I believe. He needs to do a complete lifestyle change as well as probably downsize considerably if he wants a chance at a good second half of his life. Or pull a CT Fletcher an get a transplant. That ticker is toast
I don't think the resources for heart transplants should be wasted on bodybuilders if you ask me. If he caused it himself he should suffer the consequences.
So he needs to do a complete lifestyle change and grow up, start acting his age.
BCBuilder
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I don't know if I would make the distinction of bodybuilders. I won't argue that steroids put strain on the heart, but I think the main cause here was his weight and diet, he was doing whole menu fast food mukbangs and shit.
I do agree there is something to be said about performing expensive high risk life saving procedures on people that knowingly and stupidly get themselves into these positions though. Maybe health insurance needs a higher cap lol. I also don't know American health care as well as Canadian so there is that
Having worked in healthcare for a few decades the reason your healthcare costs are so high, your insurance rates so outlandish(if you're young their not so bad and if your employer is picking up the cost it's still coming out of your paycheck one way or the other). Is that we have added year after year more and more treatments that cost a fortune. This will completely bankrupt the nation.
You have only one option and only one option, either you drastically bring down the costs of treatment, cutting salaries and wages(which absolutely has to happen regardless) or you cut treatments(which absolutely has to happen you have no choice).
It is stupid to spend $1.5 million on Kali Muscle a heart while someone else can't afford to get a few rounds of inpatient IV antibiotics for a wound infection that is 25 years old and has his whole life ahead of him.
I've always said when I was working in the lab that we need universal basic healthcare for everyone, and we need to get rid of the extremely expensive therapies and procedures that drastically drain hundreds of billions of dollars from our national budget.
If I was a heart surgeon responsible for being fiscally responsible and ethical due to shortage of organ donation I would look at Kali Muscles case and immediately deny him any transplant of any sort. It's the only ethical thing to do considering how much work it is to maintain a transplant center, all the testing that goes into finding a tissue match for the recipient, and the constant medical care required post transplant. It's almost vulgar for Kali to expect this.'
The world will get along without Kali just fine, actually the world might be better off without him if I'm being honest considering the idiot pulled a knife on a dude walking into Golds Venice not that long ago. IMO Kali isn't worth a warm cup of piss in my book after such behavior. I'd be enraged if my family member died and their heart went into Kali, if it's gonna be used for someone I'd rather it be someone that is actually not a low IQ thug.
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bigtdawgwassupbro
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LOL good one.
But in all seriousness hopefully he recovers.
BCBuilder
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Yeah I agree with every point there. My argument was just that, in my opinion being well above the weight your frame should hold+eating how he did= he shouldn't get a heart transplant, not necessarily body builders in general shouldn't get a transplant. But I agree risk reward must be accounted for in these healthcare models. Does the 80 year old grandma get priority on 10k worth of treatment rather than the 25 year old? Nope, I agree, emphasise the people that will get the most as well as put more back in for the same cost
