Janoshik Analytical laboratory testing services

[adrenalytic]

Was expecting 200mg mast and 250mg cyp per 1 ml.

Yep, I'd say you're underdosed but I have never sent a mixed sample. There might be some factors like how blended the oils are (e.g., did you just pour one on top of the other and send it? or did you vigorously shake the vial, warm it, etc. to ensure proper mixing). But even if you didn't you would expect to see one higher (closer to expected result) than the other. Both look to be quite underdosed imo.

 

[Dial It In]

Was expecting 200mg mast and 250mg cyp per 1 ml.

Meso source?

 

[Photon]

Was expecting 200mg mast and 250mg cyp per 1 ml.

So mast400 and cyp500?
1/2 ml each into a vial?

If yes then it's underdosed.

 

[slayerxvii]

Meso source?

No. sadly my own homebrew

 

[slayerxvii]

So mast400 and cyp500?
1/2 ml each into a vial?

If yes then it's underdosed.

No, I brewed the concentration for the cyp at 250 mg and the mast at 200. And dropped half a ml each into a vial. I guess the big take away for me is don’t be cheap and mix compounds together to save a buck.

 

[Sera]

No, I brewed the concentration for the cyp at 250 mg and the mast at 200. And dropped half a ml each into a vial. I guess the big take away for me is don’t be cheap and mix compounds together to save a buck.

In that case, it’s dosed on point.

 

[SuperJew]

The dosage is right on point. You're overthinking the math. You brewed:
Test Cyp - 250mgs/ml and sent in HALF of a ml - 125mgs.
Mast - 200mgs/ml and sent in, also half a ml. - 100mgs.

 

[janoshik]

We've bought a dedicated SEC-HPLC column for GLP-1 aggregate analysis, as the one we had for HGH dimer proved to be insufficient for such purposes, unfortunately.

Now we offer analysis of GLP-1s for aggregates based on this publication: https://www.phenomenex.com/612f047b-6a91-4a89-bc61-f71dd4fc3ebc


1x GLP-1 aggregate analysis x 150 USD = 150 USD
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TOTAL: 150 USD

 

[Photon]

We've bought a dedicated SEC-HPLC column for GLP-1 aggregate analysis, as the one we had for HGH dimer proved to be insufficient for such purposes, unfortunately.

Now we offer analysis of GLP-1s for aggregates based on this publication: https://www.phenomenex.com/612f047b-6a91-4a89-bc61-f71dd4fc3ebc


1x GLP-1 aggregate analysis x 150 USD = 150 USD
-------------------------
TOTAL: 150 USD

The link doesn't work for me, is there an article name?

 

[janoshik]

Attached it.

Cheers

 

[dinfaralt]

Hey gang. I was wondering if my gear is under dosed. I’m cheap so I sent half a ml of cyp and mast together in a 1 ml vial. Came back with these results. I was expecting 200mg mast and 250mg cyp per ml

so you have 0.5ml of 250mg cyp and 0.5ml of 200mg mast

if those oils were in 0.5ml alone they would come back as the numbers you said, but you can see its half because they got diluted in the other 0.5ml you added in.

so you have 250mg in 0.5ml of oil, but adding another 0.5ml of oil dilutes it to 125mg.

so you end up with half the results of your original ones. its correctly dosed. the oils just dilute if you mix them together, because you basically have 250mg/ml in 0.5ml, adding another 0.5ml of oil makes it 125mg/ml. even tho the other oil also contains mast

 

[slayerxvii]

so you have 0.5ml of 250mg cyp and 0.5ml of 200mg mast

if those oils were in 0.5ml alone they would come back as the numbers you said, but you can see its half because they got diluted in the other 0.5ml you added in.

so you have 250mg in 0.5ml of oil, but adding another 0.5ml of oil dilutes it to 125mg.

so you end up with half the results of your original ones. its correctly dosed. the oils just dilute if you mix them together, because you basically have 250mg/ml in 0.5ml, adding another 0.5ml of oil makes it 125mg/ml. even tho the other oil also contains mast

Beautiful explanation thank you so much

 

[readalot]

so you have 0.5ml of 250mg cyp and 0.5ml of 200mg mast

if those oils were in 0.5ml alone they would come back as the numbers you said, but you can see its half because they got diluted in the other 0.5ml you added in.

so you have 250mg in 0.5ml of oil, but adding another 0.5ml of oil dilutes it to 125mg.

so you end up with half the results of your original ones. its correctly dosed. the oils just dilute if you mix them together, because you basically have 250mg/ml in 0.5ml, adding another 0.5ml of oil makes it 125mg/ml. even tho the other oil also contains mast

See, you aren't here for selfish purposes. Doing good deeds on the UG. Careful, your goodness is showing.

As some know, if one is good at measuring volumes this method is a good one to test concentration of 2 or 3 oils at a time if not seeking reimbursement. You do give up one key certainty though unless one of the oils is a pharma control.

Also wonderful blind check on Jano for those that somehow believe he can fake all this shit.

 

[slayerxvii]

See, you aren't here for selfish purposes. Doing good deeds on the UG. Careful, your goodness is showing.

As some know, if one is good at measuring volumes this method is a good one to test concentration of 2 or 3 oils at a time if not seeking reimbursement. You do give up one key certainty though unless one of the oils is a pharma control.

Also wonderful blind check on Jano for those that somehow believe he can fake all this shit.

Yea, crazy sick blind check for Jano. Do you care to elaborate more on the certainty you miss out on using this method to test multiple compounds?

 

[readalot]

Yea, crazy sick blind check for Jano. Do you care to elaborate more on the certainty you miss out on using this method to test multiple compounds?

Just the obvious yet remote possibility that one oil contained both APIs and the other was blank. But that is the premium you get from just testing a single sample. Of course in your particular case it is homebrew.

Good topic. Thanks for sharing.

 

[cousinmuscles]

So if you mix five compounds and pay for one test, really? Haha, didn't think of that. Great way to save money.

 

[slayerxvii]

Yeah, but I think each test is still only 1 ml kinda makes hard squeezing five compounds in there evenly. And you void any reimbursement like testing credits from certain vendors you might get, but since this is personal use, I didn’t care.

 

[cousinmuscles]

Yeah, but I think each test is still only 1 ml kinda makes hard squeezing five compounds in there evenly

If it would be raws, there is a chance of the raws with larger grains (e.g. anavar) measuring higher than those with a more powdery texture, because I would assume they don't take the whole sample of say 1g of each but only enough for the machine to analyze it, and you might get more of one than the other.

However if it is oil, you can mix 1ml of each, and heat it carefully and mix it until it fully dissolves. It will. Then out of that 5ml draw 1ml and you will have an even mix.

 

[readalot]

So if you mix five compounds and pay for one test, really? Haha, didn't think of that. Great way to save money.

Ehh. The more samples mixed, the more uncertainty. I wouldn't take it that far but for a couple of oils the reward may outweigh someone's risk tolerance.

 

[slayerxvii]

Ehh. The more samples mixed, the more uncertainty. I wouldn't take it that far but for a couple of oils the reward may outweigh someone's risk tolerance.

For sure. I figured it was worth the risk for my situation…. Seeing how it was homebrew and personal use.