Janoshik Analytical laboratory testing services

I paid extra for the 2 day delivery so that it would arrive last week. But since then my package has been stuck on

In warehouse
Tuchomerice

Is this normal? How long does this process usually take? I could have kept my $30 for rused delivery had I known it would still take a week to touch down.
 
Do I understand correctly that now the GCMS test does not show the presence of BA, even if the oil contains it? Thanks
Right now it doesn't show, as it shows in the usual HPLC. Working on it this week.

how long is package usually stuck in warehouse before delivery? I paid the extra for the 2 day shipping but hope it didn't trigger some extra issues with their import customs, although I was under the impression this was entitrly legal for Jano to receive these packages.
DM me your tracking / email please. It usually depends on how fast customs process our paperwork. Sometimes they do random checks too which slows things down.

This is great idea. Combats the AI potential misinformation.



You gotta keep the boundaries and take care of yourself. Otherwise it will eat you alive. Be well Sir.
Thank you.

Janoshik's team is always fast and easy to communicate with. Considering the difference in time zones, I usually have a response when I get up the next morning. Turnaround has only been a couple days once my samples are received. Thanks for being here for us!
Thank you, it is much appreciated. We try our best.
 
Thank you, we will be proceeding with the paperwork for the package. The delay had been caused by the fact we only received the tracking number from you as of now.
thats not true. theres some miscommuinication going on with your staff. Multiple times you all have mistakenly sent me emails like after I paid and noted this, you all stated you were awaiting payment. so I went multiple days without shipping as I didn't have your address because you thought you didn't have the payment when i stated it was paid.

The tracking information I sent to you in the same email conversation where you sent me the shipping info. You should have received that tracking number on August 6th.

Not sure where my emails are going lol. I'll be sure to send a confirmation email every time from now on just to be sure. Mybe somethings goiing on with the system or something. thanks for looking into it and getting it sorted though.

Glad I reached out.

but question. had I never reached out regarding this, would it eventually have sorted itself. or because you thought you didn't have the tracking number, it would have never been resolved until someone manually updated the info and got it taken care of?
 
thats not true. theres some miscommuinication going on with your staff. Multiple times you all have mistakenly sent me emails like after I paid and noted this, you all stated you were awaiting payment. so I went multiple days without shipping as I didn't have your address because you thought you didn't have the payment when i stated it was paid.

The tracking information I sent to you in the same email conversation where you sent me the shipping info. You should have received that tracking number on August 6th.

Not sure where my emails are going lol. I'll be sure to send a confirmation email every time from now on just to be sure. Mybe somethings goiing on with the system or something. thanks for looking into it and getting it sorted though.

Glad I reached out.

but question. had I never reached out regarding this, would it eventually have sorted itself. or because you thought you didn't have the tracking number, it would have never been resolved until someone manually updated the info and got it taken care of?
Thank you, I'll check.
 
I checked all the emails and apologies for my team for missing the payment at first, but I honestly did not find the tracking number anywhere and I went through all of our emails.

The first time we've seen the tracking had been today. We cannot proceed without pairing the pack with the order first, unfortunately.
 
Thank you, I'll check.
I know I can be bothersome at times so try to be aware of this and be less bothersome. but im curious. if you had never received the tracking number, would this issue sort itself out, or the packages only get released if you have the trscking number and someone manually gets this resolved on your end?

Im curious to know this so going forward, i will need to be certain that you all have my info updated in the system even if i need to send 100 emails to confirm this. Or as long as im in no rush, will the package eventually get released to you just in case for whatever reason you all didn't get my tracking number updated. im just trying to understand how important this is.
 
I checked all the emails and apologies for my team for missing the payment at first, but I honestly did not find the tracking number anywhere and I went through all of our emails.

The first time we've seen the tracking had been today. We cannot proceed without pairing the pack with the order first, unfortunately.
ok ignore my other message since you resoponded here.

Thats not an issue. I have no problems giving the tracking. I just need to know and be absolutely certiain that you all confirm receipt of the number moving forward. thats no issue at all. thanks again. hopefully we can get those results soon.
 
It was me as well, most propbably. Heat-unstable compounds, like trenbolone, tend to test 'worse' on GCMS, than in reality, unless very careful conditions are met.
GC works at high temperatures

Hi Peter, we are planning on doing some group testing on same tren ace vials that have come from same batch. Low color, mid color, high color. We hope to achieve the mid and high color through heating two of the 3 vials that were all originally low color.

Have you attempted to characterize oxidation/degradation products of tren? Was going to send vials for HPLC and GCMS but the GC part seems dumb with tren thinking about the temps involved (300 to 350 deg C).

Any alternative method you recommend? NMR?

I would like to understand if we can pick up quinone byproducts, etc.

We would also like to purchase SME time for interpretation. What is the hourly consult rate so we can have 3rd party review / interpretation of the data? Thanks for your help so I can assemble a budget to fund.
 
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We hope to achieve the mid and high color through heating two of the 3 vials that were all originally low color.

I see this was worded very carefully

What are the time & temperature conditions that produce low, medium, and dark tren ?

Or is that another guessing game, more trial & error (and on who's dime?) ?
 
Also there is this option...

Well, we can do LCMS testing on AAS too, but it provides zero benefit compared to GCMS. GCMS is simply way more suitable for the task.

I assume we would need LCMS and NMR to do the structural elucidation for tren degradation products while avoiding making more during the analytical detection itself. Is your LCMS more suitable for tren analytical chem fun?

I would think we would want to see if there is some type of correlation between color index and tren impurities (and which classes) if we are going to take it this far.

Appreciate any suggestions. Thank you.
 
Have you attempted to characterize oxidation/degradation products of tren?
No, characterization of unknowns is insanely difficult and time expensive.
What we usually do (~ 90% confidence) would be better called "educated guessing", which is my preferred option and even that is pushing the financial capabilities of most of our clients.


Any alternative method you recommend? NMR?

GCMS can only pick up volatile degradation products, but it's best, because different fragmentation patters are quite telling and EASY to interpret.

NMR would probably be the best, but it requires very significant degradation product presence (and would thus be best from heavily degraded raw powder).

Also, we currently don't have reliable NMR access, unfortunately.



Also there is this option...



I assume we would need LCMS and NMR to do the structural elucidation for tren degradation products while avoiding making more during the analytical detection itself. Is your LCMS more suitable for tren analytical chem fun?

I would think we would want to see if there is some type of correlation between color index and tren impurities (and which classes) if we are going to take it this far.

Appreciate any suggestions. Thank you.
LCMS allows for structural elucidation, but not ours, unfortunately, ours is the type and setup which is focused mostly on routine ID.


My suggestion to start with would be regular HPLC comparison + GCMS comparison + consulting.

I'd figure if someone here can interpret the GCMS / HPLC data and then we can do the regular 120 USD / hr consulting. We took in a lot of really smart people recently, who might be able to do it in my stead.
 
No, characterization of unknowns is insanely difficult and time expensive.
What we usually do (~ 90% confidence) would be better called "educated guessing", which is my preferred option and even that is pushing the financial capabilities of most of our clients.

Understood. Thank you for taking the time to respond. As a group effort we may have some decent funding capability so it is good for community to understand what your lab is capable of.

We want to do this right and as you say you have the most tren experience. Would appreciate your advice.

GCMS can only pick up volatile degradation products, but it's best, because different fragmentation patters are quite telling and EASY to interpret.

So with inert gas in GC then I guess we will have to heat that tren stuff up and see what we find. I just want to avoid reactive artifacts as part of the analytical quest.

NMR would probably be the best, but it requires very significant degradation product presence (and would thus be best from heavily degraded raw powder).

Will be some iterations as we start working with various levels of degraded tren.

Also, we currently don't have reliable NMR access, unfortunately.

Ok.

LCMS allows for structural elucidation, but not ours, unfortunately, ours is the type and setup which is focused mostly on routine ID.
Thank you for confirming. I hope people read this info.

My suggestion to start with would be regular HPLC comparison + GCMS comparison + consulting.

I'd figure if someone here can interpret the GCMS / HPLC data and then we can do the regular 120 USD / hr consulting. We took in a lot of really smart people recently, who might be able to do it in my stead.
Ok I will pitch that plan in the funding thread. Thank you.

Who knows in a few years perhaps we will be using GCMS with derivatization routinely to characterize tren impurities, lol!!!

Appreciate your time. Raise your consulting rates!!!
 
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What are the time & temperature conditions that produce low, medium, and dark tren ?
Not too hard. I dont need a kinetic model or anything. I will listen to folks who play with it all the time.

Heat to 80 deg C, test at time intervals. Maybe we reference with color chart.

 
No worries, this thing is really important for me too, if there's some error, it needs fixing.

We always confirm tracking receipt for this very reason.
Yes, when i receive instructions, it says somehting like "and send us trackins as soon as you receive it". But you have a similar urgency with a few other things you mention so people may just ignore it.

It should be stated similar to "and once you have tracking, please send to us immediately, as we can't actually import and receive the item without knowing the tracking number ahead of time.

I'm sure you can clean that up quite a bit, but it would be good for us to know that the process can't move forward unless we supply this tracking number ahead of time.
 
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